Some basic demensions of the composite OC6s
To be brutally honest with you, I really don't think that too many people are going to divulge information regarding the specifications of their boats. It seems to me that everybody is working at gaining the competitive edge in the open divisions, and companies probably aren't wanting their competition getting some information that may help them gain an advantage.
I could be wrong here, but if I was a builder, I definitely would be hesitant to hand out info that's taken years to develop and perfect.
#3 Mon, 02/28/2011 - 6:15pm
Osprey,
I answered your question on the flikr account. But Mulus might be able to give you a lot more insight on Coast Salish Racing canoes. He races them up in North Vancouver. But lines on these dugouts are all a little different. Very very fast canoes (and tippy). You can do a search on youtube on Coast Salish Racing canoes and you can see some racing. pretty cool.
#4 Mon, 02/28/2011 - 7:03pm
I can't speak for any builders. But I do know of at least one that gladly loans out their canoe to anyone who wants to try it. I'm sure anyone could take measurements while they're borrowing it.
#5 Mon, 02/28/2011 - 9:09pm
ya, any info you need about my six man . I will be glad to share. like 41 feet by 28 inch at its widest and 12 inch high in the middle. the seats are only a few inches off the floor. we have foot rest. and back rests. no ama
#6 Mon, 02/28/2011 - 10:05pm
Keep in mind that Mulus paddles in a War Canoe that's capable of taking down the USS Ronald Regan
#7 Tue, 03/01/2011 - 4:55am
Eh Osprey,
What are YOU working on ? : )
Always fun to hear about and check out new stuff.
aloha,
pog
#10 Tue, 03/01/2011 - 12:58pm
The dimensions for Kapa'a, (Kamanu Composite's blue unlimited design) are no secret:
41' 9" overall length
38' 4" waterline length
22" widest point (above waterline)
19.5" widest point at waterline
...and 188 lbs.
It doesn't move because of the numbers though... gotta remember the hands that built it, and the hands that paddle it.
#11 Tue, 03/01/2011 - 1:05pm
Cool Osprey,
Sounds like fun. Right here is one design, http://www.huki.com/ Its gotta have the ONNO rudder like Santo's too : ) : ) : )
aloha,
pog
#13 Wed, 03/02/2011 - 2:37pm
The problem with a 50 foot coast sailish style is your 3s inch from the floor and the balance is like a surf ski. But I don’t think you would need a keel. the main plus is having 11 guys there’s more to lean on and more speed. my only concern would be being in the water for an extended amount of time your legs and back would be more likely to cramp. I would sway to and unlimited class outrigger style for comfort in the long run would be faster in the end.
#15 Thu, 03/03/2011 - 7:01am
Try an OC12 (two oc6 side by side with flat iakos)
Some of the crew can sleep while the others paddle, no need for anyone to get out of the canoe.
It's traditional in Outrigger not to stand in the canoe, but you can pee over the side if you lean over the gunnel while seated.
#16 Thu, 03/03/2011 - 10:38am
Actually the twin hulls are faster than a single OC6. About 1-2 seconds over 500meters if you go by the World Sprints times.
Dan, we keep sending Tony Bond over there every year 'ços he's the only crazy one that will go. But when i finally go insane i promise i will do the event.
R
#18 Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:32pm
I didn't think they could hold the speed that an OC6 could maintain.
No they don't... they are much faster !
#19 Thu, 03/03/2011 - 12:29pm
Goto,
Is the 38' 4" the loaded water line?
Same with the waterline width?
#20 Thu, 03/03/2011 - 2:53pm
Yes. The canoe was designed for the six paddlers who raced Kapa'a in 'Eono. We each had to decide where we were going to sit before we could even start building so the waterline would come out right where Keizo wanted it. That guy knows what he's doing when it comes to canoes n' stuff.
#21 Thu, 03/03/2011 - 3:41pm
thank goodness keizo is light. if he were heavier i would have had to stroke.
#22 Thu, 03/03/2011 - 4:40pm
In Tahiti there are hulls that can carry 8 paddlers. When lashed together you got a V16...
On the following links you will see pics of what I'm talking about.
http://www.paddle-planet.com/en/photos/223/viewcategory/2#category
Also, I'm sure that you could add a platform between the iakos to have a place to rest/cook while the rest of the team doesn't stop paddling.
#27 Tue, 03/15/2011 - 3:37pm
Caught on tape during the 60s. Races with the "Bounty" in the background. (from the movie with Marlon Brando).
http://www.ica.pf/articles.php?id=195
#28 Tue, 03/15/2011 - 3:51pm
Has anyone used the double hulled canoes in big seas...maybe 5-6 ft swells? in a downwind or upwind seas or with swells coming broadside? If so how did the canoes operate? I could see that they can move very quickly and theoretically would be more stable...than a outrigger w/ama ,but would like to know what limits, strengths or weaknesses the double hulled canoes have.
I know that Te Aurere and Hokule'a are double hulled sailing canoes...but their hulls are enclosed and have a definite difference in shape so I'm guessing their performance is very different. Anyone have any thoughts?
#30 Tue, 03/15/2011 - 5:04pm
Caught on tape during the 60s. Races with the "Bounty" in the background.
Hey that's cool Hiro. Looks like they were racing the V Doubles.
#31 Tue, 03/15/2011 - 6:37pm
Has anyone used the double hulled canoes in big seas...maybe 5-6 ft swells?
I wouldn't try... you have to get the two hulls travelling at the same speed all the time. Otherwise it puts tu much stress on the iakos and the lashings.
#32 Tue, 03/15/2011 - 7:35pm
I was wondering if anyone knew some of the basic deminsions of those beautiful composite canoes that were built last year to race in the unlimited OC6 events. What is the OAL, beam, rocker, etc.? Reason I'm asking is I'd like to compare those hull design basics to what those in Texas call an unlimited 6-man hull, which is used in river racing and can be paddled with both a wing blade and single blade.
Any info would be much appreciated.
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