30 Second OC 1 Performance Survey For Paddlers Online - Recent News

eckhart

This is a short easy survey - CLICK THE LINK if interested - where you can rate the performance of your OC 1.
I will post the results for you.
Please be somewhat critical that others may get a good idea how your boat performs. It's all subjective, but still valid.
Please rate : 1 = average, 2 = good, 3= very good, 4= excellent
For intended height: please put in ft'inches"
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA

Submitted by eckhart on Fri, 09/05/2008 - 9:22am

dacho

eck,
suggestion: you might want to add weight, height, experience level, since that seems to be some of the most common questions.
to fit in your grading system:
height:
1-under 5'3
2-5'3-5'7
3 5-8-6-0
4 6-0-6-4
5 over 6'4
something to that effect
weight similar to above

#1 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 9:38am

eckhart

Dacho - thank you.
I have sent/am sending a spreadsheet related form to the builders where I inquire about the weight the boat is intended for.
If you go to the blog - click below - at the left bottom you can see - option to enlarge - the spreadsheet and the information that we are trying to collect.
The shorter survey above is user feed back for a general idea about the boats. It would be difficult to get experience in there: like "8 padlers on a ___ had an average of 4 years paddling experience wouldn't make sense".
The height thing is a great idea - mahalo.
We will try to make some short video profiles of paddlers that are interested. There we can mention their experience.
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

#2 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 9:45am

eckhart

I have added :

paddler's intended height
build quality

if you have taken the survey before and want to comment on these two, please just put the name of the canoe and fill in these two features but leave the other features blank that we don't duplicate data.
We are looking for averages.
Thanks to everybody that has responded so far - great response.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA

#3 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 9:56am

eckhart

First trend:
rating on flat water, upwind - generally a little lower
mixed bag on steering
generally high rating on quality of build.
Tip: height: put in a range if you want
Tip: not registered guests can post, too, can they ?
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA

#4 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 4:00pm

eckhart

First results have been posted, to see them please click the link below:

#5 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 10:52am

eckhart

Ka Nalu Nui has been rated - the first Argentinian OC 1 !

#6 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 11:20am

marianolarghi

Aloha eckhart!
and mahalos for putting us in the map!
this pic shows the first oc-1 of my country!
http://outriggercanoe.ning.com/photo/photo/show?id=2032409:Photo:1739
good job on your new project, i think we all can learn together!

#7 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 11:43am

eckhart

You can watch the ka nalu nui in action; I linked to the youtube video on my blog; click below.
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

#8 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 11:32am

eckhart

Mariano - if you would like to publish your canoe's specs in the OC 1 Comparison Chart - this is a different survey - please go to the blog, click the related link, fill in and submit.
I have to do some revision.
This spreadsheet has contact info of builders, technical data etc, too.

#9 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 11:53am

Shawn Michael

If I had more experience I would respond, but I have never been in big waves on the fusion. Great ideas thought, bravo, it is about time. Between you and Rambo, we have a library of info.

#10 Fri, 09/05/2008 - 6:08pm

eckhart

Shawn - just leave out the comment on 'big', but please post your feed back.
Your input is important: the more feedback, the better. In the end I will publish averages.
Comfort, build everything is important.
I left experience out on purpose.

#11 Sat, 09/06/2008 - 3:51pm

eckhart

Update:

about 50 responses so far
boats most frequently mentioned: Fusion, Hurricane, Kaimana, Pegasus, Pueo
surprise: only one Scorpius so far.

This raised some questions for me:
How many OC 1 are actually out there/have been sold,
how many are actively being paddled,
how many of those visit www.ocpaddler.com,
how many of the latter care to respond to the survey ?

#12 Sat, 09/06/2008 - 3:51pm

eckhart

More reports are trickeling in - thank you. Keep on posting:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA
The Pueo is getting high ratings.
If you want to see the Pueo in action from google video:
http://oc1design.blogspot.com/2008/09/pueo.html
with comment from a first time user !

#13 Sat, 09/06/2008 - 7:40pm

eckhart

About 60 comments on OC 1 performance so far. I'd like to reach about 100, 10 for the most common brands. Mahalo.
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA

#14 Sun, 09/07/2008 - 10:40am

eckhart

The Hurricane has been most reported. Here are the averages:
Hurricane - Performance:

flat water: 3.92
up to 4 feet: 3.21
4 - 8 feet: 2.5
big: 2.3
upwind: 3
steering: 2.33
set up/rigging: 3.75
comfort: 1.88
quality of build: 3.36

Looks pretty representative, doesn't it ?
4 is 'excellent', 1 is 'average'
65 paddlers have responded how they feel about their boat so far.
Hopefully more will post.

#15 Sun, 09/07/2008 - 7:25pm

Shawn Michael

Hard to imagine these canoes like getting all 4s hopefully folks will be real, very interesting.

#16 Sun, 09/07/2008 - 9:35pm

eckhart

Shawn. please have a look at the report on the Pueo that I received in the mail:
Like you, I wonder about a '4' on all ratings.
However, if the Pueo has a better footwell that allows the paddler to apply more pressure - as described in the post - than it could be that a boat that is meant to do well in the surf could also be paddled well in the flat.
The improvement would then be in the cockpit and not at the under water hull.
Similarly, the seat design of the Fusion/Fuze/Zephyr allows very good control of the boat in the open ocean - that may lead to better performance.

#17 Sun, 09/07/2008 - 10:34pm

eckhart

Latest news - Some new videos on my blog.
Labels:

OC 1 Video Review
OC 1 Downwind Technique

About 80 paddlers rated their OC 1; I will soon be able to publish another average.
The World Map Of OC 1 Dealerships is growing and can be enlarged now - most of those guys live in very nice places.
Tell me, does 'fuzerider' - distributor in Maine - have an outrigger behind his house on google maps ?

#18 Mon, 09/08/2008 - 1:28pm