Kanaka Ikaika Race #2
where's the fun in that? it could be good training in case this year's solo is like last year.
#1 Wed, 01/20/2010 - 6:32pm
2 years ago they reversed it. Magic Island to the bath house. From the start to DH bouy was small. From there to the finish was a blast!
#4 Thu, 01/21/2010 - 12:50pm
Hoot Hoot!
Sheesh I have never heard so much complaining, every one knows I fly like the wind but I also fly upwind very well! Come on Jimmy Girl dont be like the Bronc's.... MIA
#11 Fri, 01/22/2010 - 2:17pm
lol. You finally got me mr pueo. That was a pretty good one. Maybe even funnier since I severly dislike the broncos too.
#13 Fri, 01/22/2010 - 3:03pm
I notice the KIRA site says the following:
Paddlers MUST use one of the following:
1 Coast Guard approved type III PFD.
2 Durable orally inflatable PFD
3 Lifeguard type rescue torpedo attached to paddle craft and tethered to paddler.
4 Durable inflatable PFD attached to paddle craft and tethered to paddler.
5 Paddlers must leash him/herself to paddle craft at a strong anchor point.
6 Coast Guard approved Type III PFD aboard craft. This is the State of Hawaii's recommendation, but we "advise" >that if this method is chosen, the PFD should be tethered to the paddler.
Is this adhered to? Thanks.
#15 Fri, 01/22/2010 - 6:27pm
It states Must use ONE of the following not ALL.
Paddlers MUST use one of the following:
This is the one most of us use.
Paddlers must leash him/herself to paddle craft at a strong anchor point.
#19 Fri, 01/22/2010 - 8:29pm
haha well shit its not cool to put down another organization on a web page that they use to promote their races....or their food
#25 Sat, 01/23/2010 - 9:12pm
Are there issues? Seems like pretty much the same crowd (at least where I am-in the back) at all the races that I have been to...
#26 Sat, 01/23/2010 - 11:22pm
If you don't like the way Pa'a or Kanaka Ikaika run their shows you've got two options. One is don't participate. The other is start your own racing organization. If you consider what a major pain in the ass it is to run these races, having two racing associations on o'ahu is pretty sweet. Whining on the internet solves nothing. Stepping up to plate and volunteering to help correct whatever short comings you percieve is more productive. Don't get me wrong, Kanaka Ikaikas food needs help, but bitching and moaning about it on OC Paddler isn't going to do shit to improve the situation. Hey Mr. Iron Chef, maybe you should call Jim Foti and offer your kokua.
#27 Sun, 01/24/2010 - 8:10am
You don't have to pay to paddle down wind either. The point is to compete. And while paddling upwind is not as fun as paddling down wind it definately seperates the men from the boys...especially the 'Jimmy Boys'.
#30 Sun, 01/24/2010 - 5:50pm
Food? No worries if you still hungry. At least get Rainbows down the road. No can beat the boneless chicken with gravy all over. Enjoy!
#32 Mon, 01/25/2010 - 12:33am
A couple of years ago I only raced when it was downwind and fun. It came back to bite me when it was flat in the races I wanted to do, like States or relay. Learned the hard way you gotta train and race in all of it. You never know what the conditions will be like race day, like solo last year. We on Oahu are fortunate we have two race series to pick from. We have a lot more options here than people on the outer islands.
One thing I will say, it would be nice if Kanaka Ikaika would offer a discount for early registration like Manny does. The paddlers get a discount and the race directors are less likely to have people bail at the last minute due to weather conditions. You one smart buggah Manny!
#33 Mon, 01/25/2010 - 12:14pm
I just looked at the the race rusults, what catagory is "KAPUNA 60+" ?
It's bad enough I have to correct the PNWORCA (WA/OR) race results, but to see this from a paddling association in Hawaii, auwe. If you going use Hawaiian words, atleast spell it right.
KUPUNA: Grandparent, ancestor, relative or close friend of the grandparent's generation, grandaunt, granduncle. ho'o.kupuna To take a person as a grandparent or grandaunt or granduncle because of affection; an adopted grandparent; to act as a grandparent.
#34 Mon, 01/25/2010 - 12:35pm
Well said KGB and Ainokea for keeping a positive spin on our current racing options and appreciating what we do have in terms of race opportunities. This sport grows and gets better when we bring each other up rather than knocking people down. If there are personal gripes and preferences, contact the person directly. I'm sure you will appreciate the same of others when they have a gripe with you. Live aloha.
#35 Mon, 01/25/2010 - 1:06pm
A quick comment, I agree that downwind runs are typical where the "fun" is, but you also have to consider the race organizers. If everybody decided to only race in perfect conditions, do you think that these series would be possible? There are awards, t-shirts, etc., that are purchased before the event. Not to mention the permits and insurance that are required and specified for set locations.
It seems simple enough to send out an email and tell everybody, let's meet here instead, but typically it's more involved on the organizing side of things. Notification of different agencies, specified routes to perhaps avoid other activities on the water, lots of preplanning involved.
If we want to have these races to attend, then people should also consider participating in races that may not be in the most favorable conditions.
I know in LA, they are regulated by different agencies and it's not the fault of organizers that they have to change proposed routes. I'm sure most race organizers would prefer to run in perfect conditions, but it's way more work then just sending an email out and tell everybody..."meet here".
Out of common courtesy, I think it best to not go a race, or decide to support the race by attending, but not to send out an email suggesting alternate courses not supprted by the race organizers.
By the way, I don't think the original OP was suggesting that, I believe the spirit of his message was only a suggestion.
Just my two cents and trying to take a look at things from the other side. I appreciate the effort of all of these race organizers throughout the world!
#36 Mon, 01/25/2010 - 1:30pm
"I just looked at the the race rusults, what catagory is “KAPUNA 60+” ?"
i have nothing better to do so might as well point out the irony here.
Nicely done on the redacted posts up top boys.
#37 Tue, 01/26/2010 - 6:56pm
Regarding "kapuna?" There's also a big facility out Kapolei way for elderly folks that has "Kapuna" as part of its name. I wonder if they also made the same mistake? Anyway, by the way they paddle, a lot of these 60+ year old paddlers are much too young looking and fast to be considered kupuna.
#38 Wed, 01/27/2010 - 3:04pm
The Kapuna/Kupuna typo has been there since last years (2009) result postings (check the Archives). They've just been using the same Excel spreadsheet template from last year.
The 2008 and earlier race archives has the correct spelling Kupuna though.
#39 Thu, 01/28/2010 - 2:37am
The weather must still not be good for paddling since people have enough free time to archive results back 2 years.
#40 Thu, 01/28/2010 - 3:19am
I was referring to the Archives section on the Kanaka Ikaika Website. They have the results all the way back to 1999 for easy viewing.
http://www.kanakaikaika.com/Archives.htm
#41 Thu, 01/28/2010 - 4:07am
I know there is supposed to be a Hawaii Kai run this Sat, but the wind reports are showing 19-20mph out of the SW is there any way to do a reverse Hawaii Kai run?
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