So i was just wondering about what the 550 per crew goes towards ???? i know that the sponsors used to take care of most of the costs of the boats and all of that. with the crews paying for their own shipping, i think that we might need to recalculate how much it actually costs. at this rate next year will be 650, 750, 850........

Submitted by keola_24 on Mon, 09/28/2009 - 9:09pm

Yah this year has become pretty exspensive. Maybe super ferry was a huge sponsor for us last yr. Hmmm did super ferry donate so much money we put them out of business??

#1 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 5:46am

Yep....big bucks. High cost for entry fee....high cost for escort boat...gotta pay your own shipping cost to Molokai...hard to find places to for transportation to Lono...airfares to Molokai....bad economy.

RECORD NUMBER OF ENTRIES FOR NA you figga??? Canoe paddlers are a resilient bunch.


#2 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 8:48am

Since when was shipping big ass canoes, a bunch of gear, and a lot of people to a remote island inexpensive?

#3 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 10:35am

When the Poop hits the fan people tend to go back to their roots and what they love to do more than anything else. Paddlers can take out bad days by paddling with friends and family. We know what's important to us!

#4 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 10:37am

jpi, I agree. but it does give paddlers something to complain about, confirming my belief that paddlers LOVE to complain!

#5 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 11:54am

and i agree with tpoppler

#6 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 12:46pm

There is another way to look at it too.

The resilient or the "rich"

The numbers might be up because the overall interest and appeal has gone up over the world so more people want to do the race. If the race was more affordable then maybe the numbers would be even greater.

I think, due to costs, the local boy and girl put together group of friends crews are down.

Also the race is easier due to nutrition, clothing, better paddles, better and faster canoes, and communication.

I will always support the HCRA standards since it continues to make it realistic for everyone to race in a relatively even manner and keeps the already expensive costs down.

Back to my “rich” comment. A wealthy paddler can do the race every year. A poor paddler might do it once every 5 years. You might say wait a minute I do the race every year and I am not wealthy, but, if you can do it every year, you are not poor.

#7 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 4:54pm

A large part of the entry fee goes to the coordination and safety of the race. The big charter boats that are there are getting paid a very sizable wage to do be an official boat for the race. They get paid so good that they have steaks and lobster tails barbecued on the Maggie Joe on Saturday night. The big charter boats hold a big party in the harbor at Kaunakakai. These guys act as official boats but you don't see them on any of the coastal races. Shoot, they don't even know how to tow a canoe. You think they are there for the money or for the love of the sport?

The other big expense is for the insurance of the race. As a paddler and a boater, I know the cost to insure a boat and how much it cost to run a boat for a race. Sure, gas prices are down right now but fuel, oil in the engine, oil in the gearcase, engine belts, batteries...everything goes through a lot of abuse during the race. As a boat captain, there is an added sense of responsibility that is taken to each and every member on the team that he is escorting. Sometimes a little thank you means so much.

#8 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 4:44pm

Does anyone really think there is a fat bundle of cash left over when its all said and done? And if there is, do you think its so much money that the people who end up with it dont deserve it? Meaning the people who put on the race?

#9 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 6:16pm

anyone know the promo code that was offered by Ocean paddler TV for mokulele airlines? or any other promo code?

#10 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 6:49pm

Put up or shut up. Unless of course you want to grab your posse and try to run this whole thing in 2010.

#11 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 7:10pm

I think the promo was ocean paddler

#12 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 8:15pm

i am by no means wealthy...but I try to do the Hoe every year. I clamped down on everything else, fundraise, be a bit selective on which races i do, is all about priorities hey...

#13 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 9:12pm

You have to mention "ocean paddler tv" I've used it at least 6 times.

#14 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 9:13pm

I do have problems with some of the things that go on with the Hoe but, you couldn't pay me to run this race. Not a chance, I like to complain and bitch and moan, it's my right to be like that. But there is NO way I would want to be in charge of this race. Logistical nightmare. The fact that you have over a thousand people who race is trying enough, all of the time it takes to run people through registration, finding official escort boats, pulling permits for two islands, running through the coast guard, funding, transportation, insurance, people to help. Brave props to the people who put it on.

#15 Tue, 09/29/2009 - 10:26pm

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