As may be seen in the Demo Day thread I'm looking for a new OC1. Considering individual boat cost, shipping, and tax the Pueo is roughly $500-$800 more than the Kai Wa'a and Outrigger Connection boats I can buy new locally.
Just wondering why? I suspect it is because the Pueo is made in the USA. Is this true and the only reason or am I missing something else? Maybe more costly materials and/or better lay-up? I'm sure the additional, almost unlimited graphics choices also adds a little to the overall expense.
I've looked through older threads and seems like there is plenty of discussion about value and Chinese manufacturing of OC1s, ethics, environment, and etc, so no need to rehash that again here.
Thanks
Submitted by semdoug on Tue, 11/30/2010 - 2:20pm
supply and demand.
#1 Tue, 11/30/2010 - 4:19pm
Pretty much it has to do with manufacturing cost. If you buy a Hawaii made Kai Wa'a or OC boat you will find the prices are close to the same. All boats have maintained the pretty steady price over the past few years irregardless of demand.
#2 Tue, 11/30/2010 - 4:55pm
Graft to OCPM
#3 Tue, 11/30/2010 - 6:17pm
i am not familiar Kona J. please advise.
Semdoug, what i was trying to say is you should call any builder and ask for a local made canoe quote. i think you'll see they're all close in price. if you don't care where the boat is made then you'll indeed save several hundred dollars.
#4 Tue, 11/30/2010 - 6:47pm
buy initially what is most comfortable to you. After you paddle for a couple a years then buy another canoe that fits your paddling style. Each canoe paddles a bit different as they have different hull shapes. If you are a new paddler you have a bunch to learn. Get out on the water and practice a lot. Its great on the water. Have fun!
#5 Tue, 11/30/2010 - 8:38pm
i got a brand new XM for $3700. my friend just got his Pueo a few weeks ago for almost $4500.
#6 Tue, 11/30/2010 - 8:42pm
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#7 Wed, 12/01/2010 - 12:38pm
i stand corrected. Scorpius XM's are cheaper. with your extra $400 you could go get a surfboard or a couple new paddles. or if you buy a china made boat you could have two extra surfboards or 5 or 6 new paddles. sounds like a good deal to me!
Edit: I just had a better idea. buy either a regular lay up Scorpius or some other used boat. train super hard for a couple years while the money you saved sits nice and safe and warm in a bank account. then after two years of ultra super good training take that money and buy yourself a ticket to super aito. do that race and see where you stand. THAT is money well spent.
Edit edit: anyone want a used boat? I'm selling.
#8 Tue, 11/30/2010 - 10:47pm
It is called product differentiation, you are willing to pay a premium because you belive the canoe with help you perform better or give you an edge. So you pay the price, no matter what it costs (whatever the market will bear) until a better product comes along, and then the pattern is repeated or until something else comes along that's more popular. For me, I'm happy getting 98% satisfaction with my $500.00 used canoe. I'm too poor for go spend $4,000.00 more for get 100% satisfaction on a new one, unless you like co-sign a loan for me?
#9 Wed, 12/01/2010 - 10:29am
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#10 Wed, 12/01/2010 - 12:38pm
Dang it! I always miss the deleted comments.
Just commenting on my own comment. The only reason I said go race in Tahiti is that when it is all said and done, doing the solo (paying for escort, fees, aire fare, boat shipping) and paying for the super aito (air fare, entry, food, assuming you can find a cheap place to stay) costs approximately the same amount. So spending a week in Tahiti and getting two days of racing and having five days off to surf etc. is way worth it.
#11 Wed, 12/01/2010 - 12:53pm
Thats because ive learned to reread quickly!
#12 Wed, 12/01/2010 - 12:59pm