Team Hawaii

Added another video, Pat took the GOPRO Cam with him to a Team Hawaii training session before the 2010 Havaiki Nui.

Team Hawaii Preparing for Havaiki Nui 2010 from Dolan Bros. on Vimeo.

Enjoy!

Submitted by Ryan Dolan on Wed, 12/15/2010 - 5:39pm



This made me curious about all the ropes stretched between the iako. What purpose do they serve?


#1 Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:33pm


quite an eventful video....


#2 Wed, 12/15/2010 - 10:37pm


@jc : Net, for keeping paddlers underwater in case they huli.


#3 Wed, 12/15/2010 - 11:42pm


I need to stop watching videos at work - no sound on the computer makes it boring


#4 Thu, 12/16/2010 - 5:24am


Hiro, that makes sense.

toa moana, the soundtrack makes it heaps better.

just be patient, at about 8:57 in the vid all hell breaks loose.


#5 Thu, 12/16/2010 - 10:23am


The rope keeps the iakos tight. They would move a little and we wanted to stop the movement so that the ama would stay in one place.


#6 Thu, 12/16/2010 - 12:35pm


At 7:27 seat 3 (in yellow ) misses a stroke.... could be why all hell breaks loose at 8:57 jc

Anyone guess what the clicking noise is .....?? ...give in..??? Ok it's the Gopro rattling on the mount "cos Pat forgot to put the orange Doohickey in to stop the movement. Most people throw it away thinking it's part of the packaging.

How did the canoe steer Jimmy, compared to say a Mirage?

R


#7 Thu, 12/16/2010 - 4:43pm


Canoe steered well in the flat, you could pretty much paddle steer the whole time. A little tougher in say a sidewind condition. And the clicking I believe is me hitting the square cockpit area in five seat ( drumming the boat).


#8 Thu, 12/16/2010 - 5:21pm


So it tracks pretty well then like most of the canoes designs from the Big Island... steerer friendly.

And the clicking I believe is me hitting the square cockpit area in five seat ( drumming the boat).

Good lord .... remind me never to lend you my carbon steering blade then ...hehe

Orange Dohickey


#9 Thu, 12/16/2010 - 5:33pm


i never got one of those doohickeys. :-(


#10 Thu, 12/16/2010 - 6:15pm


They cane in a separate plastic bag, most people miss them and throw away as nothing in the manual about them. They look like a nose pincher swimmers wear, good for when changing nappies too.!!

R


#11 Thu, 12/16/2010 - 7:27pm


im with jc9_0....im pretty sure it came in the box. butttt i didnt get no doohickey


#12 Thu, 12/16/2010 - 8:59pm


i just realized the reason i never heard the clicking noises is that i've always used the suction cup mount on my canoe or the handlebar mount on my iako.

but i still wish i had the doohickey so i could use the mounting clips too. wonder if it would work if i just jam some tape or silly putty in there.


#13 Fri, 12/17/2010 - 12:35am


Yep that what most people do, black electrical tape. Some of the clicking noises are also Gopro rattling inside the case if the hinge door backing foam is worn. On a trail bike over rough ground it is usually the record button rattling. Best not to use the audio anyway and use a separate audio record if you want good sound.

R


#14 Fri, 12/17/2010 - 12:47am


Thanks for sharing that! Were you guys tapering for Hawaiki nui at this point?

Notes:
- 60-63 stroke rate
- 14 strokes per side
- 3 is calling
- Technique seems to be a bit more vertical then I have seen them before, but could not get a good view of Kai, he has that big reach from the side normally, Mikes stroke is a bit different then the rest, but they are all hitting perfect.

Can you post the mph, heart rates and the program for the day? call it a Christmas gift to the ocpaddler community ;)


#15 Mon, 12/20/2010 - 9:34am


Technique appears vertical but may be due to wide angle lens. 1 and 2 look less "vertical".


#16 Fri, 12/17/2010 - 1:13pm


Eh Rambo,

Mahalos again for helping us video gumbys out.

aloha,
pog


#17 Fri, 12/17/2010 - 5:32pm


Braddahs look perrrfect!


#18 Sat, 12/18/2010 - 11:03am


Thank you to all those with the technique critique. I didn't realize how many coaches were on ocpaddler.com...

The workout was 6 x 30', The average speed for this 30' piece was 9.1 mph, and I think heart rate is overrated.


#19 Sun, 12/19/2010 - 6:24am


Well Pat, guess you better be "Perfect" before posting videos on OC-Paddler. Keep trying, you'll get there. He he he.


#20 Sun, 12/19/2010 - 7:16am


just one overcast day and everyone gets all grumpy. good thing it doesn't snow in hawai'i. no telling what would happen without Chuckles here to regulate.

on a side note, i've seen single ropes stretched between iako on a conventional rig but never knew what that was for either... anyone have a theory on that? and why does the ama move with the pipe iako boat? do the iako need to be stiffer? it looks like it couldn't be the rigging that would shift. especially since the iako sink straight into the hull and the ama so no loose ropes... a year or two ago my buddy KJ was dreaming up a rig very similar to the one shown in the vid but he never got around to testing it. could the rig in the video be improved by laminating square wood iako in the same type of curve as the tubes? what the heck are those tube iako made out of anyway?


#21 Sun, 12/19/2010 - 1:23pm


Single string is for leaning onto with your paddle to prevent huli.


#22 Sun, 12/19/2010 - 1:48pm


Single string is for hanging the banana hammock on when riding bareback.


#23 Sun, 12/19/2010 - 2:08pm


Aloha Pat,

how long was the recovery for the 6 x 30' workouts?

Mahalo


#24 Sun, 12/19/2010 - 4:35pm


What happen to that neat ILH surfski race video. That was a very inspiring video for a bunch of Middle School kids who enjoyed watching it and got me to launch the Scuppers so they could go paddle before the rain came. Too bad that it was removed, for it gave a glimpse of what high school solo kayak paddling is all about.


#25 Sun, 12/19/2010 - 4:37pm


what the heck are those tube iako made out of anyway?

metal

Serious answer: The tubes are shown being heated up to bend them in the Runaway Train video on Anders Carlson's vimeo channel so I would guess steel, stainless steel or aluminum, but given steel is heavy and prone to corrosion I'd think stainless or aluminum.

Maybe they rattle because the sleeves on the hull weren't custom made and are just a larger diameter pipe so there's a little play in the fit between 'iako and sleeve?


#26 Mon, 12/20/2010 - 5:18am


Not much sense in stainless, too expensive. Aluminum tubing is cheap, readily available and very easy to work with.


#27 Mon, 12/20/2010 - 5:29am


9.1mph for what seemed to be effortless =nice.
I doubt anyone is trying to "coach" you on this forum, to dissect and learn form one of the best teams to be put together is not a bad idea.


#28 Mon, 12/20/2010 - 9:47am


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