Olamau

anyone know who's entered, how many crews, predictions?

Submitted by jc9_0 on Sat, 06/01/2013 - 3:23pm



Go the Olamau Race Facebook page. Most of the crews are listed.


#1 Sun, 06/02/2013 - 9:50pm


ah bummer. I quit Facebook.


#2 Mon, 06/03/2013 - 1:42am


You don't need to have a Facebook account to access public Facebook pages. Olamau can be found here:

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Olamau-Race/162196033846445


#3 Mon, 06/03/2013 - 10:43am


Well, after checking out the Facebook page it seems pretty difficult to figure out all the teams that are registered unless you have a lot of time to click through the comment history. Maybe I'm missing something obvious, like a link to the list of registered teams?

On the other hand, I did see that OPT and Shell Va'a are doing the race. Also, there seem to be quite a few women's teams.


#4 Mon, 06/03/2013 - 10:50am


Well, after checking out the Facebook page it seems pretty difficult to figure out all the teams that are registered unless you have a lot of time to click through the comment history. Maybe I'm missing something obvious, like a link to the list of registered teams?

They must have read this... Look at what they just posted :

Aloha Olamau Race fans and participants,
Only 8 days until race day!
Here is the line up of participants in this year’s race in Moku o Keawe, in honor of King Kamehameha.

Women’s teams participating in 3 day Olamau Race
-404 Simple Mobile Women from California
-Na Hoa from Hawaii
-Na Wahine o Kawaihae & Keahiakahoe from Hawaii
-Oceanic Connection from Hong Kong/Australia/North America
-Pacific Wahine from Hawaii

Men’s teams participating in 3 day Olamau Race
-404 Simple Mobile Men from California
-Alaka’i Nalu of Hualalai Resort from Hawaii
-EDT Va’a from Tahiti
-Team Intova from Hawaii
-Team Kamanu from Hawaii
-Team Mahina Hoe from Tahiti
-Team OPT Va’a from Tahiti
-Team Mellow Johnny’s Va’a from Hawaii
-Team Pacific Northwest from Seattle/Hawaii/Canada
-Team Pflueger Honda from Hawaii
-Team Raimana World from Tahiti
-Team Riviera/Dana from California
-Team Shell Va’a from Tahiti
-Team VRC/LBC Hong Kong/Sea Shepherd from Hong Kong
-Team Waikoloa/Surf Park from Hawaii

Women participating in the final day Uluweuweu Bay Relay
-Hawaii Isle Na Wahine from Hawaii
-Kai Opua-Kea from Hawaii
-Kai Opua-Uliuli from Hawaii

Men participating in the final day Uluweuweu Bay Relay
-Keauhou Kupuna Boys from Hawaii


#5 Mon, 06/03/2013 - 7:15pm


thanks Hiro, hopefully they figure out a way to post updates on here or maybe create a blog with updates somewhere. i'm on a 12 step recovery program from Facebook and can't afford a relapse.


#6 Mon, 06/03/2013 - 7:20pm


winds have been really good this past week on the big island!! Trades are supposed to push through the weekend, and maybe into the first day! Who knows. winds have been long overdue, and this past week has been out of control. This course certainly will have a variety of conditions for sure!!


#7 Fri, 06/07/2013 - 6:49pm


Why does not the publicity go much beyond this space? How many paddlers .or even for that matter..the general public even know this event is happening? I It is awesome...it deserves recognition ! The premier event of our time and no audience...sort of like climbing Everest....just to do it... without fanfare. Go guys...a new era.


#8 Fri, 06/07/2013 - 9:37pm


I'm wondering why Ocean Paddler TV said they won't be covering the race. I hope that someone at least takes some video for us to see... Rambo ?!


#9 Sat, 06/08/2013 - 6:22pm


Any input on preferable race conditions for Olamau race legs 1 & 2?


#10 Sun, 06/09/2013 - 9:25pm


looks like day 1 anything out of the East will make for a long downhill, but day 2 seems tricky going around the northern tip of the island:
http://www.olamaurace.com/course.html

small craft advisory issued thru Wed this week, should score


#11 Mon, 06/10/2013 - 6:44am


Will there be video coverage?


#12 Mon, 06/10/2013 - 6:56am


oceanpaddler tv said it was not covering the race. while i am grateful that there is some coverage of the sport, oceanpaddler tv has a long way to go. right now it's mostly just a bunch of attention deficit disorder flashes of people paddling.

sadly, the Tahitian video of this past molokai had not only better coverage, but much more informative and better narration of the race...all the while being in french! note, i dont speak a lick of french but i found the excited Tahitian commentator more informative given the clips and the his body language.

i found its facebook post arrogant and full of self importance. it takes credit as being "essential" for putting the race "on the map". i salute you ocean paddler tv for saving this sport and presenting this race to the rest of us minions. the notoriety of last year's race had nothing to do with the epic course and conditions. the notoriety of this year's race had nothing to do with the race organizers' promotion in Tahiti.

it is the biggest / highest caliber canoe race this state has ever seen and we owe it all to ocean paddler tv. i salute you.

before we know it, ocean paddler tv will take credit for the boys crushing it in the tahiti nui.


#13 Mon, 06/10/2013 - 9:30am


@ "numerouno"
Thank you very much for the feedback - we appreciate you watching Ocean Paddler TV - we love to receive feedback to make our show better - please email: info@oceanpaddler.tv


#14 Mon, 06/10/2013 - 12:33pm


meh, ocptv's sour grapes is still no excuse for the race organizers to punt coverage all together.

Is it that unreasonable to add a 'News' section to the Olamau webpage?

for all the effort these athletes will invest in paddling 100+ miles,
surely the race org's can chip in a couple of hours of HTML, right??


#15 Mon, 06/10/2013 - 2:42pm


i found team 404 has a twiddler feed you can follow. last update i saw was Danny got on the plane for Hawaii.

numerouno, where are these Tahitian video feeds you speak of? will they broadcast olamau also?


#16 Mon, 06/10/2013 - 7:21pm


15 teams, 5 from Tahiti... That "excited Tahitian commentator" better be there ! Or we go back to good old times and throw him in the "ahimaa" !


#17 Mon, 06/10/2013 - 9:21pm


Team Pacific Wahine will be trying to communicate via FB and ocp. If other teams can post that would be great. Video footage uploaded is always nice. The content now is much more rich than what any newspaper could add. To make this sport more known then it's up to us, not some silly newspaper that completely irrelevant and lacking in rich authentic information.

24 teams x 12 paddlers per team approx = 288 entrants in this race
Molokai Hoe usually has about 85 canoes or so. 85 x 9 = 765 entrants

Olamau is already 38% as large as the Molokai Hoe.

It's mostly top paddlers doing this race, people that people look up to. This race will only grow, and as it grows more top paddlers will not be participaing in 400lb canoe racing. Ultimately what will happen, if things don't change, winning to Hoe will be the equivilant to winning pre-season races.

What will happen if Tahitti decides to not do Hoe any longer and decides to stick with Olamau. Is Lanikai and Outrigger really going to care if they when the Hoe then, I doubt it. Will they then focus the training and efforts on the unlimited racing since that is where the Tahitians will play. What might other clubs do then?


#18 Tue, 06/11/2013 - 9:44am


Good post, but numbers might be a bit off. Molokai Hoe has had over 100 canoes in it, and that is x9 or x12 for 55 and 60 masters., probably over 1000 paddlers, and if you add Na Wahine and it's numbers maybe that is over 1600 total, as I believe the number used aabove was combined mens and womens crews in the Olamau.

Not criticizing, just commenting. I am in agreeement that Olamau is a great event and will continue to grow in the future, as it should


#19 Tue, 06/11/2013 - 2:44pm


I emailed the producer of Oceanpaddler TV and asked why no coverage this year? Answer was ongoing issues resulting from last years coverage. Anybody know anything about that??


#20 Tue, 06/11/2013 - 6:07pm


NWS is saying fresh 20 knot trades today & buidling more Thu and Fri.

the bar is about to get raised


#21 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 6:39am


Who took early lead?


#22 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 9:02am


Team404SimpleMobile is tweeting... last one 5 min ago read:
"Race on start at 8:47. 5 minutes into to race 404 inside running with shell. Kamanu jumped out front on the outside."


#23 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 9:10am


Right now battle between mahina, 404, and Kamanu. Tahiti crews and a couple others way up front I think.


#24 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:33am


From Olamau's Facebook:

"An update for the men's crews, Shell Va'a is in the lead, EDT Va'a is in second, Mellow Johnny's Va'a is in third, and OPT Va'a is in fourth currently"


#25 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:35am


Can someone ad who's paddling on each team and the manufacturer is of the canoe they paddling?

I know Pflueger is in a Puakea design and I believe shell is also. Kamanu has how many boats racing and what teams they on? Are Big Island guys all using Pure boats?


#26 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:36am


Shell Va'a - Puakea
404 - Pure
Pacific NW - Pure
Mahina Hoe - Kamanu Composites
Alakai Nalu - Tiger
Surf Park - Pure
Riviera/Dana - Pure
Hong Kong/Sea Shepard - Pure
Pflueger Honda - Tiger/Puakea
EDT - Pure
Mellow Johnny's - Pure
OPT - Pure (looks like the Livestrong canoe from last year) Btw where is Livestrong this year??

Odie's been busy...


#27 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:07am


I know Team Intova made their own boat out of hawaii kai


#28 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:55am


404 Simple says there was a shark under the bow of theri canoe. THey said this delayed them from doing a drop. I can't believe they still did the drop....but whatever.

Thanks Keliki

Rice Paddler- is that Hui Nalu guys?


#29 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 10:57am


Bouncing back and forth between here and twitter. Sounds sharky.


#30 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:05am


Healthyearth its got a core of hui nalu guys but everyone else is with various OHCRA clubs


#31 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:07am


@ Kileki - I believe Livestrong became Mellow Johnny's.

The team changed its name to Mellow Johnny’s, after sponsor Lance Armstrong’s Austin bicycle shop, following his fall from grace and subsequent split with the Livestrong Foundation.

(taken from Hawaii Tribune-Herald article).

Other than the Olamau FB page, various FB pages have updates (mostly pictoral)

Pacific Northwest - Olamau 2013
Viper Va'a

With these 3, Olamau posts are pretty much all I'm seeing on my FB page. Sweet.


#32 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 11:29am


Day 1: Unofficial results from Facebook

Shell
Mellow Johnnys
EDT
OPT
Pflueger
Mahina Hoe
Kamanu
404


#33 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 1:19pm


Anyone have any info/specs on the canoes? I see Pure have the majority of the field but would like to know more about the Tiger, the Puakea and the canoe used by Intova.


#34 Wed, 06/12/2013 - 3:56pm


Official Results posted last night on FB:

~Women~
5th Pure Oceanic Connection 5:25 56
4th Na Hoa 5:20 55
3rd 404 Simple Mobile women 5:17 49
2nd Na Wahine o Kawaihae & Keahiakahoe 5:05 54
1st Pacific Wahine 5:03 33

~Men~
14th VRC/LBC of Hong Kong for Sea Shepherd 4:50 34
13th Pacific Northwest 4:39 20
12th Intova 4:30 53
11th Surf Park 4:28 25
10th Alakai Nalu of Hualalai Resort 4:26 47
9th Riviera/Dana 4:21 45
8th 404 Simple Mobile Men 4:09 22
7th Kamanu 4:08 16
6th Mahina Hoe 4:07 25
5th Pflueger Honda 4:03 41
4th OPT Va'a 4:01 02
3rd EDT Va'a 3:44 31
2nd Mellow Johnny's 3:42 01
1st Shell Va'a 3:40 40


#35 Thu, 06/13/2013 - 8:13am


looks like that top wahine crew is running a Spec boat. hmmm..

and how about those Big Islanders? they've got a shot to win this thing especially with Gales blowing up their home waters today and tomorrow

mahalo Anders Imagery, the race org & all else for delivering the action. good on ya!


#36 Thu, 06/13/2013 - 9:54am


@ Salty it's a 208 lb Bradley.

Is Mellow Johnny all BI guys or are there Tahitians in it or what it made of? Is it close to the team that did so well in the Hoe? I remember someone saying that the steersmen for that boat was a nov a-ish paddler that was close to 50.

Ist this 404 Simple team the same team that did so well last year or is it different paddlers?

Olamau FB page went for 2000 Likes yesterday to nearly 2800 today. To put that in perspective Midweek has 11,800, Star 101.9 has 7,000, Ocean Paddler tv 8,000.


#37 Thu, 06/13/2013 - 10:24am


No, the top wahine crew is in a 209 lb Bradley Lightning.
(They answered that question themselves on this photo, https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=526562264076485&set=a.2957222204...)


#38 Thu, 06/13/2013 - 10:14am


Heiva paie Amo from shell is paddling for mellow johnny, matahi peu from paddling connection, & mihimana Panai from paddling connection.. If that helps.. They doing really good. At the moment edt & shell out in front. 404 just got swamped from what im getting. Good luck all!!


#39 Thu, 06/13/2013 - 11:06am


EDT and Shell battling for 1st. EDT about a boat length ahead. (for those who aren't using twitter or FB)


#40 Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:41pm


Shell finished about 5 seconds ahead. Unreal. They battled each other neck and neck the entire race.


#41 Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:50pm


Opt followed closely by Mellow Johnny's.


#42 Thu, 06/13/2013 - 12:52pm


anyone know the overall standings going onto the third leg?


#43 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 9:00am


From facebook...

Official overall Day 1 and Day 2 men's times and places:
1 Shell Va'a 6:39 40
2 EDT Va'a 6:43 37
3 Mellow Johnny's Va'a 6:56 32
4 OPT Va'a 7:14 59
5 Pflueger Honda 7:19 49
6 Mahina Hoe 7:32 14
7 Kamanu 7:39 59
8 Riviera/Dana 7:44 25
9 404 Simple Mobile Men 7:56 51
10 Surf Park 8:03 04
11 Intova 8:05 18
12 Alakai Nalu of Hualalai Resort 8:07 18
13 Pacific Northwest 8:37 43
14 VRC/LBC of Hong Kong for Sea Shepherd 9:04 53

Official overall Day 1 and Day 2 women's times and places:
1 Pacific Wahine 9:09 02
2 Na Wahine o Kawaihae & Keahiakahoe 9:18 02
3 Na Hoa 9:22 36
4 404 Simple Mobile Women 9:30 24
5 Pure Oceanic Connection 9:43 51


#44 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 9:58am


Looks like they are starting to update their website too...
http://www.olamaurace.com/results.html


#45 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 9:59am


I wish they would list the names of the crew members of each team....


#46 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 10:59am


At the first change was (unofficial):
Shell, Edt, Mellow Johnny, OPT, 404, Dana


#47 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:26pm


Across the line:
Shell, EDT, MJ.


#48 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:34pm


Big gap


#49 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:39pm


Opt


#50 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:41pm


404


#51 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:44pm


Pflueger


#52 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:46pm


Kamanu


#53 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:52pm


Dana


#54 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 12:52pm


Very exciting race and great course. Congrats to all.

Does anyone know what the weight of the top V6 hulls came out at? I know last year they were around 200 and Pure mentioned he was making nice ones at 186. Did they get lighter? I am sure Puakea/Tiger V6 canoe will get a lot of press and garner discussion.

Aloha


#55 Fri, 06/14/2013 - 6:01pm


All beautiful boats. Tigers ones was about 170lbs I think. MJs wanted a bit more weight at 240 and Kamanus one not sure but about 180 I think. Biggest thing I seen in the boats was the foot braces. Big diferance with them. Foot press timing has to be tougether also with timing. Rudders next year. I am calling it now. Wish I got to race. Look killer.


#56 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:46am


In Luke's first commentary at 6:26 yesterday, he mentioned at the "first change". I didn't think there were any changes in each of these legs. Wats this mean?


#57 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 3:13am


RUDDER??? That's why we got a paddle!


#58 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 3:33am


there was some talk of using rudders in the first year of the race. not sure if anyone has yet. that's one thing that is specifically left out of the rules.

-All canoes must have iako and ama.
-No sails or artifcial means of propulsion are permitted on the canoe.
-No mechanical means of bailing water of the canoe are allowed.
-During the race each entry must have it's assigned identifcation symbol or number permanently displayed on both sides of the front manu of the canoe.
-No restrictions on the canoe weight or length
-No Electronics on the canoe with the exceptions of go pros, cameras, handheld VHF, and cell phones.


#59 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 5:24am


Footbraces ? Finally !!!
Gaawd I wish I could get over and check everything out.

aloha,
pog ( an on the fence here, rudder advocate )


#60 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 5:40am


Drewp: there was one land based change on day three.
I want to say way more about the race but I feel like I just got run over by a bus. And I'm on my way to an epic day of spec canoe sprinting. Nothing like a regatta to really put Olamau in perspective. Ill try and post a comprehensive write-up about the epicness of the race and the organization as soon as my body stops cramping :)


#61 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 7:43am


The new unlimiteds are awesome. Just a thought. Would it make sense due to affordability to have consistant rules with Tahiti? I understand they have a weight guideline as well as waterline. One reason is anybody/any club can make the canoe that they can afford. Would be great to have one set of rules that all countries could follow. No make sense Hawaii has one rule, Tahiti another , AUS another NZ another etc. This might help grow the sport. What do you think?


#62 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 9:04am


i'm on the fence about the rudder thing too. i can see how it could lead to a big jump in speed with an extra paddler in the canoe. however, to me the skill of being able to steer and control a canoe with your paddle is a huge part of the sport of outrigger racing. perhaps it's even the escence of the sport itself.

back on subject. the race looks like it was amazing and the course is truly world class. i've already begun wracking my brain to see if there's a way i can afford to do the race AND find a crew scrubby enough to let me paddle with them. here's to dreaming!


#63 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 12:00pm


You're spot on jc9_0, for a rudder is no substitute for skill and effort. I'm just surprised that it would be considered, considering the popularity of rudderless V-1s. But yes, in keeping with the spirit of "unlimited," a rudder should be allowed as an option, and see if the Tahitians do employ it? I doubt it, for it actually might increase drag? More better poke and paddle?


#64 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 1:06pm


To me unlimited means unlimited, so let there be rudders!

The possibilities of what can be done with a ruddered OC-6 in insane conditions (like the Keokea portion of this year's Olamau) are as yet unknown, but I'd imagine that a well designed ruddered OC-6 would be significantly more effective and maneuverable. If it's flat, you can always use a smaller rudder, or remove it completely.


#65 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 3:57pm


Then there is also the possibility for the unconventional.

Where do you place the rudder fore, aft or centred?

Who or which seat is best to control the rudder, seat 1, seat 6 or other seat?

The Tahitians have strong anti rudder beliefs, so I doubt they would support the introduction, but who knows, never say never.


#66 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 7:02pm


With rudder will come entirely new hull designs and weight/person placement ( steersman) will have a more dramatic role IMO.

Unlimited should always be paddle please, paddle powers that be, always and never allow any kind of sails.

aloha,
pog ( who loves sailing )


#67 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 7:42pm


What would be the size of a V6 rudder ?


#68 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 9:30pm


As I still feel as if a freight train ran me over, here's a brief post about my Olamau experience.

It was epic and impeccably organized. The pre-race blessing, meeting, and pump-up video were the best I've ever seen. While the race itself was obviously great, what really put Olamau over the top were the safety precautions. Laupahoehoe and Keokea are NOT canoe friendly launch/entry sites. Yet they went over and beyond to make sure that everyone launched and arrived safely. There was an inflatable dock on the ramp at Laupahoehoe to make sure nobody slipped on the treacherous boat ramp. There were a line of people helping guide the canoes in at Keokea. And most impressive was the Thursday morning exit from Keokea. At least two jetskis were stationed around the danger zone, a dozen people in the water were helping guide the canoes out, and a spotter on the hill was the sole person calling when each canoe could be released. When someone other than the established safety team tried to start telling crews when to go, they were immediately silenced by the water safety professionals. While the teams at Olamau consisted of some of the best watermen in the world, every precaution possible was taken to make sure that nobody got hurt. It was a world of difference to Hale O Lono at last year's Na Wahine. At Hale O Lono last September there were a hundred people on the breakwall, half of them yelling GO and half yelling NO GO. The control that the Olamau safety team had over a potentially very dangerous situation was awe inspiring.

My only minor complaint would be that the course itself is a bit less than epic. Laupahoehoe to Keokea was a fun run, but the wind coming from the back right felt like we were quartering the Moloka'i Channel all day. From what I could tell, Keokea was EPIC, but it only lasted less than an hour. Then we had something like 48 miles of flat water to deal with. In my opinion, the best part about the unlimited canoes is surfing them and seeing what they can do. While racing in a new location is always exciting, battling in Lili'uokalani like conditions for a day and a half (all of day 3 and half of day 2) isn't all that fun. I was glad to do it this year, but I hope that the course continues to alternate islands. Also, from what I saw, the only chance that we have (in the near future) of possibly beating Shell, EDT, etc is going to be in huge continuous surf. It's the great equalizer. Though (for the record) Shell and EDT did still have something like six minutes on the first Hawai'i crew coming out of the surf at Mahukona.

In my opinion, there were a few under-rated standout performances of the weekend:
Mahina Va'a basically paddled with a crew of seven guys (though they did have Kekoa Cramer and Mael Carey on day one), and they had the same stroker for the entire 100 miles. An incredible performance that I don't think anyone is going to match anytime soon.

Mellow Johnny's had an amazing day 2 comeback. I believe they had some issues in the surf and were in the back third of the pack at Mahukona. The next time we saw them they had passed three or four canoes and made up like eight minutes. The last time I witnessed a comeback like that was Kea Pai'aina in the 4th upwind leg of the Kaua'i World Challenge four or five years ago.

Intova showed what the sport really can be about. They're a group of guys (mostly Hui Nalu) who funded, designed, and built their own canoe. Then they came and raced it. I'm not sure how much money they put into it, but I would bet that, because they did the work, it wasn't that much. If they can do it, there's no reason that every club in Hawai'i can't do it.

404, on the last day, split their crew in half. The veterans (Danny Ching, Josh Creyton, Will, etc.) did the first half and the young guns (all of them 20 and under) went the second half. While the older gang did great, the young kids expanded on that lead and finished right behind OPT. Definitely a huge amount of potential coming out of California.

The women's race was a nail biter all the way through. I'm not too sure about the details, but it seemed as if Pacific Wahine had only a small edge on the competition until the end. Can any women elaborate?

And, lastly, I'm really proud of my own crew from Kamanu. I won't bore you with self promotional details, but all of the guys did awesome and I was honored to be a part of it.

*EDIT - Sorry! I just re-read it and realized it was anything but brief :)


#69 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:24pm


Oh... and please no rudders!

They will change the essence of outrigger canoe paddling forever. Canoe paddling is an art, and the steersmen is part of that. Put a rudder on and you eliminate the art. Not to mention that rudders will likely alienate anyone who is on the fence about the cultural relevance of unlimited canoes.


#70 Sat, 06/15/2013 - 10:23pm


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