Since Keizo mentioned starting a new post about this topic, I will. What do people think about doing a pule before a race?
Submitted by nekine on Tue, 05/09/2006 - 7:00pm
Since Keizo mentioned starting a new post about this topic, I will. What do people think about doing a pule before a race?
Submitted by nekine on Tue, 05/09/2006 - 7:00pm
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Haha, maybe I asked for this one. Of-course by the guy who started the voting/political debate a year and a half ago too.
Whatever it comes to, please don't create user names to hide your identity, don't post something you would not say in person, and in general please be respectable to one another. Happy posting and happy paddling.
#1 Tue, 05/09/2006 - 7:15pm
I think a traditional Hawaiian Pule would be best, not any prayer from any one modern religion ( Ho'omana ). Then everybody would have nothing to complain about, after all we all paddle the same craft, we all respect the ocean.
Koka
#2 Tue, 05/09/2006 - 10:43pm
how about this one? it was posted by Kawika Sands about 1999? does anyone know where he is now?
KA HOLO ANA
O Ku ke kupuna o ka wa`a, (O Ku the ancestor of the canoe,)
E ae mai i ka mahalo o kakou. (Accept our grattitude.)
O Kane o ke ao holo
okoa, (O Kane of the universe,)E ho`omakaukau i na hoku iloko o ka lani. (Prepare the stars in the heavens.)
E Lono o na ao e ho
alaneo ka lani, (O Lono of the clouds,)akaka na hoku alaka`i. (Clear the heavens.)E ho
Moakaka na hoku alaka`i (Make clear the guiding stars)
E Kanaloa o ke kai. (O Kanaloa of the sea.)
#3 Wed, 05/10/2006 - 2:15am
I don't know about anyone else, but for me, I need all the prayer I can get. I want safety on the water. I want to learn. I want to have the right attitude. Praying for all of that is agood thing. I think doing it before races brings everyone together. That is always good!
#4 Fri, 05/12/2006 - 7:53am
Im all for prayer before, during and even after a race or training. I think one of the most important things in all of this is to respect every religion in the crew. Not just on the beach but also off. You don't always have to agree, but a high level of respect will not only improve the team dynamics but will also improve individual relationships. Afterall, Pule means prayer. Not my prayer or your prayer, but the equal oppotunity to allow it to be what it is.... prayer. This is a sport that has been deeply rooted in tradiiton and culture for a long time. Now as cultures mix in this growing sport, this is definately one topic that has to be addressed properly.
#5 Fri, 05/12/2006 - 6:09pm
I don’t expect to change anyone’s mind about prayer and its role in public functions. But I sure wouldn’t mind if the people who want to pray publicly, like, all the time, tried a little harder to consider the feelings of their fellow participants. Truth be told, not everybody prays like you do.
I’ve been a non-Christian my whole life and when I was younger, I really used to dread public prayer. Even if it’s, “non-denominational,†there are lots of religions that just don’t worship li’ dat. So most non-Christians just suck it up so as not to be insensitive to the dominant religion. And, although we Buddhists and Atheists and Pagans and whatevers pretty much just have to play along, it’s still uncomfortable especially if you're young enough to be idealistic. Your options are either to play along or to make a stink, and that’d be as rude as being made to pray in the first place. So nobody does it. We all just bow our heads and feel like frauds.
I’m not naïve enough to think anybody really would question their need to make everybody pray with them. But the next time you do, at least try to consider that maybe you’re not, “bringing everyone together,†but instead you’re reminding the some people that they’re different.
And I promise, although you’d be welcome to, I’ll never make you chant or light incense with me.
#6 Mon, 05/15/2006 - 6:49am