I'm doing a research project and I need your help:
What are all of the sports that are most closely related to outrigger paddling?
THX
Rich
Submitted by newhopeoc1 on Tue, 06/19/2007 - 8:06pm
I'm doing a research project and I need your help:
What are all of the sports that are most closely related to outrigger paddling?
THX
Rich
Submitted by newhopeoc1 on Tue, 06/19/2007 - 8:06pm
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I'd say that it compares in many ways to road cycling. I am relatively new to OC paddling, but have years of experience with cycling and find some similarities. Of course paddling focuses primarily on the upper half of the body and cycling the lower, but the efforts are similar in terms of affecting large muscle groups, requiring a combination of muscle strength and aerobic capacity, sustained efforts, cadence or stroke rate, accelerations, uphill/upwind vs. downhill/downwind, etc.
The best part is that the penalty for a huli is almost always less than that of falling off your bike!
Raphael
#1 Wed, 06/20/2007 - 11:15am
Not sure how much I agree with bike paddling similarities. I've raced bikes for 35 years and would say bikes require much greater aerobic capacity. I've never felt the same intensity of pain in a canoe that I've felt on the bike and I can't hit the same heart rates in a canoe as on the bike. But I do think that a good cyclist will make a good paddler because of that aerobic capacity and the willingness to suffer.
As for a huli versus crashing, there's something to be said for sliding along rough pavement at 30 mph on bare skin.
#2 Wed, 06/20/2007 - 1:25pm
#3 Wed, 06/20/2007 - 4:02pm
I think a great six man crew is similar to a great Rock band or basketball team. Chemistry is key. Everyone must play their positions and complement each others performance. And there must be one or two stars (at least).
#4 Wed, 06/20/2007 - 4:19pm
dragon boat paddling is pretty similar from both a biomechanics and teamwork perspective - just have a few more bodies (10/20/50) in the boat!
I would also agree with Mr. Blane about the swimming stroke being similar as well.
#5 Wed, 06/20/2007 - 6:24pm
First and foremost I want to thank everyone for their input.
I would like to take the question in a slightly different direction to align with a different aspect of the project.
What paddling sports would be most closely related to outrigger canoeing (OC-6 & OC-1)?
I will start this new list with the two examples already mentioned and add one more:
Crew
Dragon boat paddling
surfski
#6 Wed, 06/20/2007 - 7:42pm
How about based on similarities in paddling style?
Closest: single blade, seated, both sides
Next: single blade, seated, one side
Next: single blade, not seated
Next: double blade
#7 Thu, 06/21/2007 - 9:20am
tj, you're doing all the research for this guy. ;)
Nice photos and comparisons... but , wtf is that sport (right above ikaika) with the guys on on knee?? Nuts eh?
#8 Fri, 06/22/2007 - 1:52pm
It is variously called sprint canoeing, flatwater canoeing, or high kneel canoeing. There are designations like C-1, C-2 based on the number of paddlers (the picture shows C-2). It is an Olympic sport. High kneel paddling can be done in some boats where one normally paddles while seated. I have never seen it done in an outrigger canoe, but have seen it done in a dragon boat (dragon boat teams from Asia more commonly do it, because it is allowed in the races there).
I thought someone would ask about the second picture (the one above the dragon boats)... in case anyone was wondering, it is a snake boat, as used in the Indian state of Kerala. Large ones have about 100 paddlers. Another picture:
In Thailand, they have similar boats called swan boats with up to 50 paddlers:
#9 Fri, 06/22/2007 - 3:35pm
one paddler, no paddle...
#10 Mon, 06/25/2007 - 10:11am