I totally agree with Luke about the Super Association but the only problem is that all we are doing about it is talking and there is no way any one person or group will actually step up to the "leaders" of our associations now and do something about it. HCRA should be the super association but every island has their own rules and nobody wants to change and be as one. It sucks but its the truth. If we have enough support maybe we can make it happen but all we really do now is go along with it and complain along the way. I'm down to do something about it but one voice is not anything in the big picture of things...
Submitted by JULZ87 on Fri, 10/12/2007 - 12:05am
Hey JULZ87, maybe if someone with a dark, full, manly mustache did the talking, people would listen.
#1 Fri, 10/12/2007 - 7:54am
I don't think most people really understand what goes on behind the scenes running an association. From what I can tell, it's unpaid, thankless, time-consuming, tedious, irritating, and did I mention unpaid? Maybe more people (the ones desiring change) should get involved in the island associations and work their way up to HCRA. Unless it's just another case of the "bitchenwhine" syndrome. Enact change from within. Infiltrate (to enter or become established in gradually or unobtrusively usually for subversive purposes). Of course that takes time & patience. A violent bloody overthrow would be quicker (but less socially acceptable probably).
#2 Fri, 10/12/2007 - 9:24am
I say go for the later, ie A Violent Bloody Overthrow. It will throw fear in the eyes of HCRA and the other weaker associations, setting up for the brilliant dictatorship of the SA. long live the SA (as soon as it is created!)
#3 Fri, 10/12/2007 - 12:35pm
If this sport is to be legitimized, i.e. olympic status, it would have to go beyond just a Hawaii thing. Look at other sports that have been added to the olympics recently, snowboarding for example. What type of international association was created and what was the model of it? If a new group or an existing group (IVF?) could follow the guidelines of legitimacy that other sports follow, why not go down that road for at least a class in existing races if not a whole new race series of multiple disciplines (sprints, distance, OC6, OC1, etc.).
I think the ultimate goal should be getting outrigger paddling into the olympics. The only way to do that is to follow olympic committee guidelines regarding everything, including dope testing, etc. It would also necessitate large numbers of countries involved in the sport, not to mention spectators interested in it. An association like the IVF could regulate all of the other associations, clubs and individuals making sure they follow the guidelines of olympic type organizations.
Much like triathlons and swimming competitions, some are "Official" and follow guidelines of the international regulations, where others don't. You could still have regular races that anyone can race in, without the cost of following the IVF or Super Association rules. But, certain races can be sanctioned by that organization and include all of the stuff that goes along with it, drug testing, whatever for a specific class of paddler(s). Random testing at certain major races could be done and paid for by the international association. That would legitimize the sport and hopefully get it into the olympics at some point, without it, it will never happen.
I've lost track of what I am talking about....
#4 Fri, 10/12/2007 - 1:19pm
The only reason outrigger canoe paddling isnot an Olympic sport is because the HCRA or IVF(or someone I don't remember exactly sorry) does not want to join the US Canoe and Kayak Organization. The Olympic Committee won't recognize canoe paddling as an official sport. Let's get our heads out of our asses please and get something done dammit!
#5 Fri, 10/12/2007 - 4:07pm
Now THAT sounds like something a porn-star would say!
#6 Fri, 10/12/2007 - 4:42pm
goto ur a kook. and check ur email if u want ur oiwi stuff...
#7 Fri, 10/12/2007 - 5:30pm