Just curious to see who people felt was the fastest mens crew in Hawaii .Dont be favoring anyone just state facts .
Submitted by paddlepimp on Wed, 11/07/2007 - 7:28pm
Just curious to see who people felt was the fastest mens crew in Hawaii .Dont be favoring anyone just state facts .
Submitted by paddlepimp on Wed, 11/07/2007 - 7:28pm
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ummm, don't the results speak for themselves?
State regatta was a sweep in the mens division, Molokai Hoe had only 1 club from Hawaii in the top 5.
#1 Wed, 11/07/2007 - 8:09pm
Hands down one of the fastest crews I have ever paddled with is Team NZ Hawaii... If you ever get the shot to paddle with them do it!! We tested a 6 man for Karel and hit 17-18 mph on a massive bump in the channel and rode over a 1/4 mile or so....
Mark Sandvold
www.v10hawaii.mp
#2 Wed, 11/07/2007 - 9:08pm
So Nemo are you speaking of Hawaiian ? Did they sweep all of the open mens races ? That is a good choice based on those findings . We are talking about racing and here we are hearing stories about practice . Common Sandman did I ever tell you guys about" the time in practice "... LOL ! Nah I believe you that is fast and so is Team NZ good pick anyone else . Please just state some facts no mythical practice stories .
#3 Thu, 11/08/2007 - 8:22am
Yes sir...
http://www.hcrapaddler.com/members/hcra_results.php?view=byevent&rid=45
#4 Thu, 11/08/2007 - 12:18pm
Hey Pimp,
The problem is what you see today is usually the fastest guys don't do regatta etc... To busy and not enough time or patience to deal with what is required to participate...
They usually train on their own and get together with similar "Very Fast" guys and do what is necessary to win key races or focus on Molokai.
Look at Team Bradley for the womens and what Nz Hawaii has accomplished and you will see what I am talking about.
Like it or not I don't necesarily think the fastest group is who won the Senior Mens race in States etc...
Just my opinion..
Mark Sandvold
www.v10hawaii.mp
#5 Thu, 11/08/2007 - 4:34pm
Lanikai Mid-90s Mike Pedersen, Rich Lambert, Bobby Nottage, Bo Eastabrooks, John and Jim Foti. Not this year, of course, but if you look back in history at the times this was the fastest crew in HCRA regatta history.
#6 Thu, 11/08/2007 - 6:01pm
not to discount your observation s-man, but hawaiian was also the only club in the top 5. Club meaning, not a team put together from various clubs like nz-hi. Obviously nz-hi was the fastest crew this year outside of Tahiti.
#7 Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:03pm
Hi Mark, it's true what you say about the top guys not paddling regattas and the races put on for the average paddler, then pulling together a 'dial a crew" for the big ones. But it's nice to see guy's like Kai and Jnr etc, supporting the smaller events and giving back to the sport that supports them.
Actually a lot of mid-packers are doing it also, training mostly OC1 and putting crews together for select races. I have no probs with this, I'm doing something similar myself this season. As more rules are introduced and more hurdles and loops too jump thru just to compete, it's becoming increasingly more difficult to commit to team training. It's happening this way here in Australia and i guess US and Hawaii as well.
Cheers Rambo
#8 Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:16pm
Which sucks, because only a true team/club approach can achieve maximum results. Hiro, aren't Shell and OPT pretty much club teams?
#9 Thu, 11/08/2007 - 9:34pm
Of course they are club teams.
They paddle their OC6 everyday. When they paddle OC1, they go together. One Tahitian word "Tahoe" is a key word to understand how they achieve such results, they are more than a Team, they are much like a family. "Tahoe" means "United". They sacrifice time they could spend with their wives and children to train together.
Very different from making an All Stars selection...
#10 Sun, 11/11/2007 - 8:44pm
But an All Star crew is different than a bunch of committed OC1/2 paddlers from the same club making a pact to train, race, have fun and stay together as a set crew and not be part of that clubs selection system. Especially with the blessing of the club and coach. To me, that would be the meaning of "Tahoe".
Cheers Rambo
#11 Sun, 11/11/2007 - 10:56pm
You're damn right. That's exactly what most club teams do here in French Polynesia.
#12 Mon, 11/12/2007 - 10:50pm