I did the search and recommended glue (rubatex glue) was nowhere to be found at home depot, and the clerk did not know what is was. I was going to get some 3m super 77 spray adhesive but I figured I would ask. I am glueing a thin layer of foam to the bottom of my seat and then glueing the velcro to that new layer and velco to the boat (which has alread come off after 4 months)
Thanks for a recommendation
Submitted by Shawn Michael on Sun, 04/06/2008 - 7:04pm
Epoxy.
#1 Sun, 04/06/2008 - 7:20pm
REI might have it ...
"Barge" brand contact cement .. da bes' ... of the contact cements.
Aqua, we gotta talk on the phone someday to share recepies.
Aloha,
pog
#2 Sun, 04/06/2008 - 9:27pm
Thank you guys. I am going to give it a try and see if I can get this seat dialed in.
#3 Sun, 04/06/2008 - 9:37pm
Try "SpongeRes". Its used for fixing Bodyboard Dings/cuts. (most are closed cell foam) Should be available from Turbo Surf/other good surf stores.
#4 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 1:27am
77 works.
#5 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 3:17am
Actually get "Spray 90" it's made for foam.
#6 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 4:39am
Seat Velcro 101:
The soft fuzzy side goes on the foam seat. The hook side goes on the boat.
Use the sticky back stuff on the boat and the non stick on the foam. Locate center of each. Measure and mark 1-2" from center to the outside......you now have a pararllel lines 2-4" apart running down the center of each (front to back)
Place a piece of 2" x 8" tape on the outside edge of the lines. The tape represents the velcro. Trace around tape with a sharpie on the seat foam. Tape around the tape on the boat and remove the 2" x 8" pc. On the boat, sand with 220 or 320.
On the seat foam, sand within the sharpie lines with 40-60 grit. Blow off each with compressed air. Clean each with denatured alcohol. For the boat, cut the hook velcro to 8". It should already be 2" wide. Cut a small radius around each corner (1/2"-3/4") This helps keep the corners from peeling up. Remove the mylar backing halfway bein careful not to touch the sticky back. Line up one end edge and lay down the velcro. Use the mylar backing to rub it down and work any air bubbles out. Boat is finished. Tape off, with 2" tape, around the sanded area on the seat. Pre-cut the fuzzy velcro to size. Mix 30 minute epoxy. Divide into 2 portions. Mix some micro ballons and cabosil to make a wet peanut butter paste into one portion. Take the paste and apply to the foam, spreading evenly with a squeegy. If you get any outside the tape barrier use the denatured alcohol to clean up. Take the other portion of epoxy and "paint" it on the back side of the fuzzy velcro. Being very careful to not get any on the fuzzy side. (if you do use the alcohol). Flip the velcro over and place it on the area that you sanded and now has a thin veneer of the paste. Put a piece of plastic over it and flip the seat over so that the velcro is down against a flap surface. Put some shot bags or sand bags on it for an hour. Be VERY careful not to move the velcro.
WaaLaa......velcro that will outlast you:-)
#7 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 6:20am
Contact cement. Shawn I did the same thing as you and its been stuck on for about 6 years. So it works. Make sure to get the oil based one. The water based contact cement sucks!
No need to get all fancy and sh$t. Go buy a small can of contact cement and a brush and your friggin set.
Poopoo
#8 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 8:09am
hey aquafiend, why does everyone put the fuzzy side on the seat and hooks on the boat?
#9 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 8:20am
Im thinking of placing a gel seat within my one man seat for molokai...glue down with epoxy
#10 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 9:34am
Hey Keizo
Cuz the fuzzy side is more flexible than the hook and bends and twists with the foam. Its about putting like with like.
#11 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 9:43am
zackley aquafiend
#12 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 10:01am
many thanks for the advice!
#13 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 11:20am
AquaFriend, do you have any trouble removing epoxy when needing to change something?
Also marine goop works okay. I currently use Barges glue.
Saw some stuff at a kayak outfitter once, think it was called H2O glue or somethin'.
#14 Mon, 04/07/2008 - 3:02pm
I think I may try to switch it up with the velcro on my seat and see if it lasts. One time I ate it super hard and lost my seat -- only to find myself sitting on the velcro hooks. I would of very much preferred to sit on the fuzzy side. :p Though I suppose the seat shouldn't come off in the first place. Even if it was a huge wave.
#15 Tue, 04/08/2008 - 1:06am
Hi Keizo,
I was this ll close to saying n my last post.
"so don't even bother experimenting"
The hooks on the boat just works better.
Either one will hold up, but once you start moving things around then ( on / off + adjustment) then you will notice the longevity difference.
#16 Tue, 04/08/2008 - 1:24am
Keizo, nows the time to use that free voucher and get a "Full Brazilian" on you're next trip to the beauty shop. .. not good being the human fuzzy half of the velcro. ... hahaaa
Cheers Rambo
#17 Tue, 04/08/2008 - 1:34pm