Just bought an old outrigger from a buddy. He said it came from Hawaii. It measures 27" from stem to stern and has "The Fiberglass Shop Outrigger Canoes" on the bow. Anyone have any background on this company. I need to restring the steering cables for the rudder to the foot pedals and wanted to talk to someone from the shop if it was still around.
Submitted by Chi on Thu, 05/08/2008 - 4:36pm
Sounds like either Walter Guild's original long boat or Karel's model of the same length. As far as rudder cables, it's probably the same procedure as a modern boat,maybe easier. Some of Karel's original longboats had a port to access the rudder inside the canoe. Use the search feature to find the thread where the process is described.
#1 Thu, 05/08/2008 - 4:53pm
Thanks Jim, going to try the drip irrigation system tubing and west marine glue trick I read about.
#2 Thu, 05/08/2008 - 5:11pm
Chi,
If you are using the white polyethylene stuff from Home Depot...
Put it in a skinny metal pipe and leave it out in the sun for a day ...it will come out nice and straight.
pog
#3 Thu, 05/08/2008 - 5:45pm
The Fiberglass Shop was Walter Guild's place. Sounds like it might be a Kaiwi Challenger. 27' you say? If it's also narrow with a long waterline, that's probably it.
#4 Thu, 05/08/2008 - 9:45pm
Kaiwi challenger was shorter-probabaly the original long boat. I don't think it had a name.
#5 Fri, 05/09/2008 - 3:59am
Chi, Could you post a picture? I'd love to see what such a boat looks like. I'm new to the sport, but love to know the history.
#6 Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:30am
"Kaiwi challenger was shorter-probabaly"
Jim I think it is 24'.
#7 Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:55am
Attached is a photo of when I put it in the pool to check for leaks. No the pink floaty next to it is not mine.
#8 Fri, 05/09/2008 - 5:37pm
Yes it's the original longboat from Walter Guild. Karel made one just like it (surprise, surprise). I believe it was based on a boat Paul Gay brought back from Tahiti. An elegant craft in flat water, the first Lanikai Canoe Club time trials were held on Karel's version.
#9 Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:16pm
Chi - Thanks for the pic. It looks very cool. It is amazing to see how far canoes have come. Even so, I bet they were stoked to have something back then.
Jim - thanks for the history lesson.
#10 Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:20pm
Actually, for cruising along in the lagoons of Tahiti, you'd be hard pressed to come up with a more efficient design.
#11 Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:27pm
You might want to put the ama on the left....I'm just saying.
Oh, and I bet that thing would kick ass in an in-harbor time trial. Looks like an OC-1 and a rowing scull had a baby together.
#12 Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:42pm
Ama on the left, got it.
#13 Fri, 05/09/2008 - 6:41pm
Ran new cables to the rudder and built new steering pedals. Replaced the tubing with drip irrigation line and patched up a crack in the fiberglass up around the combing. Took it for a quick test run out on SD Bay this morning. Nice relaxing ride and I'm looking forward to many more to come. Thanks for the suggestions on repairs.
#14 Sun, 06/01/2008 - 4:53pm
i once knew someone who tried to catch a wave at ala moana bowls with a boatus much like the one you have pictured. needless to say, it didn't really work.
#15 Sun, 06/01/2008 - 5:06pm
Ama on the left or right? Doesn't that have to do with which side of the equator you're on?
#16 Sun, 06/01/2008 - 5:53pm
The canoe is awesome!! It would be nice to have timeline with pictures of canoes and the years they were made to compare the evolution of OC design.
#17 Sun, 06/01/2008 - 7:16pm
speaking of 'ama on the left or right, I also noticed that peculiarity on this quicksilver flyer:
http://www.quiksilverkingofgroms.be/KotG/includes/images/Outrigger-flyer...
#18 Sun, 06/01/2008 - 10:45pm
Kala,
you'll often find surfing canoes rigged right as opposed to left.
it's determined by the direction of the surf break you are playing on..
#19 Mon, 06/02/2008 - 6:39am
An old indian saying...
You save a village from a wolf attack and do they call you "wolf fighter"? no.
You brave an arctic storm to bring medical supplies to the sick and do they call you "arctic brave one"? no.
But you screw one sheep or put the ama on the wrong side and, man you'll never live it down : )
#20 Mon, 06/02/2008 - 3:25pm