Is it really good for anything? I tried it yesterday, and now I'm all sore, and NOT any faster.
What a waste of time...
Submitted by goto on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 7:04am
Is it really good for anything? I tried it yesterday, and now I'm all sore, and NOT any faster.
What a waste of time...
Submitted by goto on Tue, 07/01/2008 - 7:04am
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Weightlifting is only to look better in the finish line photo. It has no competitive value unless you're competing for the wahines. But if you're a mid-packer like me, then all the weightlifting in the world still doesn't attract them. Cheating is much more effective.
#1 Tue, 07/01/2008 - 7:25am
You walked into this one-
Weight training makes your shirts look tighter of course. You could drop the weight lifting and just continue to double-dry your shirts on high.
#2 Tue, 07/01/2008 - 8:09am
Double-dry on high!?! It's WAAAYY easier to just buy size medium...
I'll teach you a thing or two.
#3 Tue, 07/01/2008 - 8:11am
Brah, drop the weights and pick yourself up a loop of tennis balls, a Foti blade and the heaviessst one-man you can carry to the water. Go Joe!!
Aloha,
Tom
#4 Tue, 07/01/2008 - 8:17am
4 layers that seem like such a good idea. That is what I instinctivly wanted to do. I paddle around a small "island" that is roughly square and on the one leg you always have a really strong headwind and it feels like you are fighting for every foot, then you turn the corner and the wind is blocked and you feel like the paddle is flying through the water and everything feels effortless. But its like the sprinter dragging a weight sled and I guess it messes up the motorpatterns and you are as well to sprint with your normal set up??? If any strength training would apply (other than working external rotators and antagonists for joint balance and health) the law of specificity would dictate that would be the most ideal vs. pullups or dumbell rows or cable rows or pullover etc. I know this went around the board and the end result was forget the bands, weights etc but would be a good experiment
#5 Tue, 07/01/2008 - 10:03am
I think in distance paddling, aerobic conditioning beats strength conditioning.
I think in getting that 400 pound canoe into the water, strength conditioning beats aerobic conditioning. Or just let the other five guys do it.
#6 Tue, 07/01/2008 - 12:17pm
Here's a question. You have 3 paddlers of totally equal ability, they paddle the same amount, run the same amount, swim the same amount. Who's going to be faster?:
Paddler A: maintains the above
Paddler B: maintains the above but starts a weight training program 3 days a week.
Paddler C (who is poopoopaddler): doesn't train at all. Especially today when Paddler C stayed home all morning, watched TV, and played Xbox 360 in between very frequent naps while eating a wide variety of junk food.
I say its a crapshoot. Depends what boat they use.
Poopoisios
#7 Tue, 07/01/2008 - 1:24pm
Paddler B puts on 50 pounds because he's on the juice and ends up slower.
#8 Tue, 07/01/2008 - 5:39pm
Paddler D: spends more time on OCPaddler than actually paddling. Will obsessive archive combing and forum perusing help or just lead to confusion on the water? A smart-ass mouth adds to the trouble (and wastes energy).
#9 Wed, 07/02/2008 - 11:20am
Whoa whoa natalini. Easy there, keep that up and you'll never be in the OCP mafia. You'll have to join the ranks of one other that was not allowed in. We won't mention any names but he has an avatar very similar to mine.
#10 Wed, 07/02/2008 - 1:25pm
Poops, why waste your time on Xbox, when there is a perfectly good paddling game at OCpaddler.com!
#11 Wed, 07/02/2008 - 1:31pm
Aw crap... see, I'm trying to figure out my question myself. And I have to keep my trap shut in the boat, or I'm asking things like, "HEY! Where the f**k are the 'ho's'?" when no one responds to the change call. But what I should be worrying about is technique, technique, technique!
And whether or not the super spicy curry I ate for lunch is going to make an appearance... poopsie, indeed.
#12 Wed, 07/02/2008 - 7:54pm
Actually, that is a legitimate question - where ARE the ho's?
#13 Wed, 07/02/2008 - 8:40pm
goto, when you find out please let me know. I've been looking for them for a while.
poopoo
#14 Wed, 07/02/2008 - 9:01pm
Ho's always make for a better ride, especially when you're all lonely in 1 seat. :|
#15 Wed, 07/02/2008 - 9:09pm
I only do body weight lifting during the season. Pull ups, running, hill climbing, Ab wheel. Just to keep things interesting, I run as hard as I can for the same amount of time I expect to be paddling in a race (ie. ~8 min. for a regatta race). I feel like lifting anything more than light dumbells would tighten me up too much and reduce flexibility. Plus, I'm tired enough already.
#16 Thu, 07/03/2008 - 7:42am
Nintendo Wii
end of story
#17 Thu, 07/10/2008 - 9:27am
as long as ye stretch properly an' lift weights wi' full range o' motion, ye ortin't experience any loss o' flexibility or tightness. i be havin' coached paddlers fer voyages that lift before an' durin' th' season, an' we be havin' nerehad any o' them issues.
#18 Thu, 07/10/2008 - 1:09pm
arg! that be getting hard to read!
#19 Thu, 07/10/2008 - 2:11pm
weights are heavy.
but i figure if their not gonna help me win maybe they'll help me look better when i lose.
#20 Fri, 07/11/2008 - 12:56pm
I agree with the salty dog above and you should lift based on what you want to achieve. The bulky power lifter isn't going to be able to paddle worth sh t after a mile or less, but someone doing lifts with your body weight like bench press pyramids, or tabata sets with light weights like 95 pound squats using the tabata method... you're going to strengthen your frame with out getting all huge and increase your explosiveness which will help you catch bumps by pulling more water. You guys don't think the top paddlers don't lift in some way?
#21 Fri, 07/11/2008 - 6:34am
Weights are heavy and I don't like to mess with gravity that much.
#22 Fri, 07/11/2008 - 9:02am
I looked up Tabata Method and wanted to try it out today, but the Moku champs are tomorrow, so I'll wait till Sunday. Sounds easy, but anything that is recommended to be done only a couple of times a month sounds scary.
#23 Fri, 07/11/2008 - 11:16pm
Tabata is a puker, designed from olympic speed skating training. I like to do it with thrusters, kettlebell snatches or front squats. See exercizes at crossfit.com
#24 Sat, 07/12/2008 - 9:06am
Weight Lifting Equipment help a lot of people in different aspect which is why a lot of people lift weights. Most reasons why people do this is to look good or sometimes to lose those unwanted body calories. Either way you look at it has good effect on your body. Just don't over do it!
#25 Sun, 06/27/2010 - 6:57pm
personally i think that weight lifting in this day and age is a must, i dont understand how people can say lifting weights makes you slower. how can being stronger make you slower ,it just doesn't make sense. However i do think that if you are lifting like a bodybuilder, or powerlifter you might get slower because you'll gain weight and get stiff, but even then i know paddlers that can lift as heavy as any bigboy in the gym and still murder guys in paddling. Thats why i think it all matters on what kind of workout plan you are on. I'm not saying just lift weights and don't paddle, paddling should be priority #1, but adding in some weightlifting will only be beneficial. so for everyone thinking that weightlifting is no good, keep shying away from the weights get used to being in the bushes at races while the top paddlers(who do lift weights) keep openinig the gap on you guys.
#26 Sun, 06/27/2010 - 9:03pm
The top athletes in every sport, have a strength and conditioning coach as well as a sports specific coach. And lifting properly can add longevity to your athletic life. Look at Uncle Wally and the rest of the Kailua Masters team, I hope I look half as good as those guys at there age.
But seriously, adding strength by weight lifting is not a bad thing. Going back to Poops' post with the three equal paddlers scenario. A. will gain speed and will get faster through time on the water and good technique. B. will see the same results as A. but will have added strength throughout the race (as long as they have done the proper lifting). C. will see the results on OCPaddler.com.
Keep it varied. Doing specific lifts over and over will over develop those muscles. (Sound like paddling?) I know it gets boring doing the same paddling routine again and again, and we change those up because your body gains more out of it. The same goes in lifting, crossfit.com is a great sight if you want to workout from home and get fit.
#27 Mon, 06/28/2010 - 4:39am
Perfect.
#28 Mon, 06/28/2010 - 6:13am
This one's even awesomer. NSFW, BTW.
#29 Tue, 06/29/2010 - 9:23am
Nice, but that still looks like a lot of work. I say, let the machine do it for you. May I suggest the Hawaii (Hula) Chair:
If you need a little more convincing here's a demo by Miss Olivia Munn, and some dude (just ignore him):
#30 Tue, 06/29/2010 - 11:01am
I'm getting 6-pack abs from laughing so hard. Stay tuned for the next infomercial, "LAUGHING YOUR WAY TO FITNESS."
#31 Tue, 06/29/2010 - 1:05pm