Weightlifting is only to look better in the finish line photo. It has no competitive value unless you’re competing for the wahines. But if you’re a mid-packer like me, then all the weightlifting in the world still doesn’t attract them. Cheating is much more effective.
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…misspelled, catchy phrase to make me look cooler…”
4 layers that seem like such a good idea. That is what I instinctivly wanted to do. I paddle around a small “island” that is roughly square and on the one leg you always have a really strong headwind and it feels like you are fighting for every foot, then you turn the corner and the wind is blocked and you feel like the paddle is flying through the water and everything feels effortless. But its like the sprinter dragging a weight sled and I guess it messes up the motorpatterns and you are as well to sprint with your normal set up??? If any strength training would apply (other than working external rotators and antagonists for joint balance and health) the law of specificity would dictate that would be the most ideal vs. pullups or dumbell rows or cable rows or pullover etc. I know this went around the board and the end result was forget the bands, weights etc but would be a good experiment
I think in distance paddling, aerobic conditioning beats strength conditioning.
I think in getting that 400 pound canoe into the water, strength conditioning beats aerobic conditioning. Or just let the other five guys do it.
Here’s a question. You have 3 paddlers of totally equal ability, they paddle the same amount, run the same amount, swim the same amount. Who’s going to be faster?:
Paddler A: maintains the above
Paddler B: maintains the above but starts a weight training program 3 days a week.
Paddler C (who is poopoopaddler): doesn’t train at all. Especially today when Paddler C stayed home all morning, watched TV, and played Xbox 360 in between very frequent naps while eating a wide variety of junk food.
I say its a crapshoot. Depends what boat they use.
Paddler D: spends more time on OCPaddler than actually paddling. Will obsessive archive combing and forum perusing help or just lead to confusion on the water? A smart-ass mouth adds to the trouble (and wastes energy).
Whoa whoa natalini. Easy there, keep that up and you’ll never be in the OCP mafia. You’ll have to join the ranks of one other that was not allowed in. We won’t mention any names but he has an avatar very similar to mine.
I only do body weight lifting during the season. Pull ups, running, hill climbing, Ab wheel. Just to keep things interesting, I run as hard as I can for the same amount of time I expect to be paddling in a race (ie. ~8 min. for a regatta race). I feel like lifting anything more than light dumbells would tighten me up too much and reduce flexibility. Plus, I’m tired enough already.
as long as ye stretch properly an’ lift weights wi’ full range o’ motion, ye ortin’t experience any loss o’ flexibility or tightness. i be havin’ coached paddlers fer voyages that lift before an’ durin’ th’ season, an’ we be havin’ nerehad any o’ them issues.
I agree with the salty dog above and you should lift based on what you want to achieve. The bulky power lifter isn’t going to be able to paddle worth sh t after a mile or less, but someone doing lifts with your body weight like bench press pyramids, or tabata sets with light weights like 95 pound squats using the tabata method… you’re going to strengthen your frame with out getting all huge and increase your explosiveness which will help you catch bumps by pulling more water. You guys don’t think the top paddlers don’t lift in some way?
I looked up Tabata Method and wanted to try it out today, but the Moku champs are tomorrow, so I’ll wait till Sunday. Sounds easy, but anything that is recommended to be done only a couple of times a month sounds scary.
Tabata is a puker, designed from olympic speed skating training. I like to do it with thrusters, kettlebell snatches or front squats. See exercizes at crossfit.com
168 Posts
Weightlifting is only to look better in the finish line photo. It has no competitive value unless you’re competing for the wahines. But if you’re a mid-packer like me, then all the weightlifting in the world still doesn’t attract them. Cheating is much more effective.
…misspelled, catchy phrase to make me look cooler…”
Tue, 07/01/2008 - 7:25am
153 Posts
You walked into this one-
Weight training makes your shirts look tighter of course. You could drop the weight lifting and just continue to double-dry your shirts on high.
Kona J
Tue, 07/01/2008 - 8:09am
436 Posts
Double-dry on high!?! It’s WAAAYY easier to just buy size medium…
I’ll teach you a thing or two.
…and that’s a SCIENTIFIC FACT!
Go Kailua!
Tue, 07/01/2008 - 8:11am
42 Posts
Brah, drop the weights and pick yourself up a loop of tennis balls, a Foti blade and the heaviessst one-man you can carry to the water. Go Joe!!
Aloha,
Tom
Tue, 07/01/2008 - 8:17am
344 Posts
4 layers that seem like such a good idea. That is what I instinctivly wanted to do. I paddle around a small “island” that is roughly square and on the one leg you always have a really strong headwind and it feels like you are fighting for every foot, then you turn the corner and the wind is blocked and you feel like the paddle is flying through the water and everything feels effortless. But its like the sprinter dragging a weight sled and I guess it messes up the motorpatterns and you are as well to sprint with your normal set up??? If any strength training would apply (other than working external rotators and antagonists for joint balance and health) the law of specificity would dictate that would be the most ideal vs. pullups or dumbell rows or cable rows or pullover etc. I know this went around the board and the end result was forget the bands, weights etc but would be a good experiment
Shawn Michael
Tue, 07/01/2008 - 10:03am
556 Posts
I think in distance paddling, aerobic conditioning beats strength conditioning.
I think in getting that 400 pound canoe into the water, strength conditioning beats aerobic conditioning. Or just let the other five guys do it.
Tue, 07/01/2008 - 12:17pm
704 Posts
Here’s a question. You have 3 paddlers of totally equal ability, they paddle the same amount, run the same amount, swim the same amount. Who’s going to be faster?:
Paddler A: maintains the above
Paddler B: maintains the above but starts a weight training program 3 days a week.
Paddler C (who is poopoopaddler): doesn’t train at all. Especially today when Paddler C stayed home all morning, watched TV, and played Xbox 360 in between very frequent naps while eating a wide variety of junk food.
I say its a crapshoot. Depends what boat they use.
Poopoisios
Tue, 07/01/2008 - 1:24pm
556 Posts
Paddler B puts on 50 pounds because he’s on the juice and ends up slower.
Tue, 07/01/2008 - 5:39pm
44 Posts
Paddler D: spends more time on OCPaddler than actually paddling. Will obsessive archive combing and forum perusing help or just lead to confusion on the water? A smart-ass mouth adds to the trouble (and wastes energy).
Wed, 07/02/2008 - 11:20am
704 Posts
Whoa whoa natalini. Easy there, keep that up and you’ll never be in the OCP mafia. You’ll have to join the ranks of one other that was not allowed in. We won’t mention any names but he has an avatar very similar to mine.
Wed, 07/02/2008 - 1:25pm
139 Posts
Poops, why waste your time on Xbox, when there is a perfectly good paddling game at OCpaddler.com!
Roscoe
www.outrigger.ca
www.theoceanexperience.blogspot.com
Wed, 07/02/2008 - 1:31pm
44 Posts
And whether or not the super spicy curry I ate for lunch is going to make an appearance… poopsie, indeed.
Wed, 07/02/2008 - 7:54pm
436 Posts
Actually, that is a legitimate question - where ARE the ho’s?
…and that’s a SCIENTIFIC FACT!
Go Kailua!
Wed, 07/02/2008 - 8:40pm
704 Posts
goto, when you find out please let me know. I’ve been looking for them for a while.
poopoo
Wed, 07/02/2008 - 9:01pm
44 Posts
Ho’s always make for a better ride, especially when you’re all lonely in 1 seat. :|
Wed, 07/02/2008 - 9:09pm
32 Posts
I only do body weight lifting during the season. Pull ups, running, hill climbing, Ab wheel. Just to keep things interesting, I run as hard as I can for the same amount of time I expect to be paddling in a race (ie. ~8 min. for a regatta race). I feel like lifting anything more than light dumbells would tighten me up too much and reduce flexibility. Plus, I’m tired enough already.
Thu, 07/03/2008 - 7:42am
2 Posts
Nintendo Wii
end of story
Thu, 07/10/2008 - 9:27am
813 Posts
as long as ye stretch properly an’ lift weights wi’ full range o’ motion, ye ortin’t experience any loss o’ flexibility or tightness. i be havin’ coached paddlers fer voyages that lift before an’ durin’ th’ season, an’ we be havin’ nerehad any o’ them issues.
C.P.L.
Thu, 07/10/2008 - 1:09pm
75 Posts
arg! that be getting hard to read!
Thu, 07/10/2008 - 2:11pm
53 Posts
I agree with the salty dog above and you should lift based on what you want to achieve. The bulky power lifter isn’t going to be able to paddle worth sh t after a mile or less, but someone doing lifts with your body weight like bench press pyramids, or tabata sets with light weights like 95 pound squats using the tabata method… you’re going to strengthen your frame with out getting all huge and increase your explosiveness which will help you catch bumps by pulling more water. You guys don’t think the top paddlers don’t lift in some way?
Fri, 07/11/2008 - 6:34am
127 Posts
Weights are heavy and I don’t like to mess with gravity that much.
We help because we want too not because we have too.
Fri, 07/11/2008 - 9:02am
234 Posts
weights are heavy.
but i figure if their not gonna help me win maybe they’ll help me look better when i lose.
“If you’re not certified you’re not qualified”
Fri, 07/11/2008 - 12:56pm
32 Posts
I looked up Tabata Method and wanted to try it out today, but the Moku champs are tomorrow, so I’ll wait till Sunday. Sounds easy, but anything that is recommended to be done only a couple of times a month sounds scary.
Fri, 07/11/2008 - 11:16pm
344 Posts
Tabata is a puker, designed from olympic speed skating training. I like to do it with thrusters, kettlebell snatches or front squats. See exercizes at crossfit.com
Shawn Michael
Sat, 07/12/2008 - 9:06am