Hello,
Is it safer to be attached to the OC1 by a leach ?
To leg ? Knee ? Iato ?
Is a classical surf leach possible ?
Any tips and advices are welcome !
Thanks in advance
Submitted by ninefeet on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 6:34am
Hello,
Is it safer to be attached to the OC1 by a leach ?
To leg ? Knee ? Iato ?
Is a classical surf leach possible ?
Any tips and advices are welcome !
Thanks in advance
Submitted by ninefeet on Fri, 07/04/2008 - 6:34am
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yes, way safer, specially while paddling in windy days, if you huli the wind will take your canoe faster than you can swim....
so, i suggest a bodyboard leash, coiled is better. (no drag)
one end around the front Iako, the other around your ancle.
Aloha!
#1 Fri, 07/04/2008 - 8:02am
I dont use leash so Im a bad example, but here's some others feedback and related articles on just starting out on OC-1 with some very usefuyl tips on not just leash safety but other OC-1 related things...
i.e. Putting the leash a certain way to minimize the tangle...
Huli Recovery Techniques:
http://www.ocpaddler.com/node/2163
Huli King:
http://www.ocpaddler.com/node/3481
An Introduction to OC-1 Paddling:
http://www.ocpaddler.com/oc1intro
#2 Fri, 07/04/2008 - 8:07am
c'mon, no ones going to take up on "leaches"? Personally I prefer to keep leaches off of my body. And I wouldn't want to see a leach big enough to connect me to my canoe.
Laughing with you ninefoot, not at you. Your english is way better than my french. But seriously, if its windy and you're farther from shore than you can swim, its leash time.
#3 Fri, 07/04/2008 - 8:39am
I don't think leaches are good to attach your canoe to yourself. I've never seen one that long plus I don't think their bite is strong enough to hold on. I suggest a leash instead. Get a short coiled leash and you'll be good to go.
As for the iato I got nothing...
#4 Fri, 07/04/2008 - 9:06am
Good eye poops. Way to clear up the confusion. (iato and leaches... Heh!)
#5 Fri, 07/04/2008 - 12:56pm
i think in tahiti, iato is the term they use
#6 Fri, 07/04/2008 - 1:32pm
Kiato is closer to the root terminology for ama connecting beams.
#7 Sat, 07/05/2008 - 12:58pm
Kiato care.
#8 Sat, 07/05/2008 - 1:32pm
"Leeches, anything but leeches!" I think either Indian Jones said that in "Raiders of the Lost Ark" or Archie in "The African Queen."
Now leashes are a different animal altogether. I saw a gal paddling an SUP in New York Harbor yesterday and she didn't have any kind of leash and I didn't think that was prudent. Of course, where does it stop? Shouldn't you also have a paddle leash in case the boat wants to go one way, the paddle a second, and you a third. Then you could end up like Goofy in a Goofy sports education cartoon, but you'd still have all your gear and hopefully some time to sort it out.
You can remove leeches with the flame from a cigarette lighter (but why would an athlete have a cigarette lighter?) Or with insect repellent or lemon juice.
Or you can wait 20 minutes, the leech will gorge itself on your blood and fall off.
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YankeeHo'okele
"Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm" - Syrus Publilius
#9 Thu, 07/10/2008 - 6:04am
iato is the tahitian word so one should say kiato when speaking about an OC1 and iato when speaking anout a V1.
#10 Thu, 07/10/2008 - 11:49pm
Hiro C,
You wrote - 'iato is the Tahiian word, so one should say kiato when speaking about an OC1 and iato when speaking about a V1'
Well... iato belongs to va a, yes!
But kiato belong to OC1....? not sure about that.
I thought that kiato means the same as iato, just like waka means the same as va a, but have to aggree that an OC is not neccessarily a va a.
Diferent terminology is wanting if pipes replace the real thing .
#11 Wed, 07/23/2008 - 10:38am
I am not a linguist and don't speak Hawaiian or Tahitian or Maori... but as I understand it, there are many variations of the same words used throughout Polynesia. A "k" in Hawaiian words is often a "t" in Tahiti and elsewhere. For example, "kane" in Hawai‘i means the same thing as "tane" in NZ. In some Hawaiian words the ‘okina is used where a "k" or "t" used to be in the mother language, and may still be used in some variations of modern language. [nb: This is why a proper ‘okina is so important... it is an actual letter! The word without it is misspelled.] So it is not surprising to me that ‘iako may be expressed as ‘iato, kiako, kiato, etc in some places.
#12 Wed, 07/23/2008 - 12:33pm
My mistake I meant iako for OC1.
Rachel you're right, but I think one should use tahitian names in Tahiti, and use hawaiian names in Hawaii..
Goodwaka, who cares what they are made of ? Even if they are metal pipes, they still connect your hull to the outrigger. That's enough for me to be caled iato or iako or kiato or whatever.
#13 Wed, 07/23/2008 - 1:05pm
I notice that aluminum pipes are sometimes lashed on as iato in Tahiti -- Sure! they are cheap and light. But I'll only be convinced to call snap on pipes the real thing when you guys in Tahiti are all padling sit-ons without lashings
#14 Thu, 07/24/2008 - 12:08am
Should we call va'a or waka a boat made of polyester or epoxy ? Is that "the real thing" ?
My ancestors, centurys ago, were not using aluminium pipes, but I doubt they were using fiberglass... so much for "the real thing".
Maybe we should just all go and find ourselves a tree and dug out our own canoes with a stone axle...
#15 Thu, 07/24/2008 - 8:45pm
It don't matter what the canoe is constructed from or what you call it, it's the ideology and respect for the history of the "Outrigger Canoe" in all it's forms that matters.
You can treat it as just another piece of sporting equipment if you want, but you deny yourself what makes this thing we do so different from other lifestyle choices.
Cheers Rambo
#16 Fri, 07/25/2008 - 3:27pm
You've hit it spot on Rambo.
#17 Fri, 07/25/2008 - 3:45pm
Storm blew the power out so this message was not able to follow question from Hiro C -
The "real thing" is a vaa/vaka/waka with iato/iako/kiato and ama, The material it's made of is not an issue -- if not for fibreglass there would be little possibility to make affordable va a in the numbers to meet the growth experienced in paddling.
But if the component design shows significant changes then the thing becomes a substitute for the "real thing"
An example would be to compare a double bladed paddle to a hoe -- both do the same thing, have shafts and blades, but the double blade is not the same thing even if it is made of wood.
Also, a sit-on 6 would surely not be consodered a real va a in Tahiti, even if it was mde of wood??
#18 Sat, 07/26/2008 - 3:03pm
To get back to the original topic the sad and tragic loss of a paddler here in New Zealand (http://www.stuff.co.nz/4633241a11.html) is unfortunately relevant.
#19 Sun, 07/27/2008 - 10:38pm