I am not sure if there is a “good color” to go with on OCs. It’s up to you and your personal preference.
As for a pro or con, I’d imagine that commonsense dictates that since black absorbs sun radiation it could potentially get “hotter” than a comparable white hull (or light colors). But I believe the margins of heat difference would be negligible. Also, since it does absorb the radiation of the sun, the hull might not reflect the sun’s rays as much as a white hull (less bright). But again, I think is marginal: not necessarily a distinct pro or con.
I have a boat with some black on it. it started to bubble in that area. it still has its shine but the bubbling sucks. little tiny ones. that also means delamination. its the heat. you gotta keep the boat covered. when it sits in the sun and you touch it, its damn hot.
If I were in distress on the ocean I would want a white or bright colored canoe. Easier to spot while out on the ocean. If you have a black one then it’ll probably look like a baby whale or something.
I’m not sure if its true I could be mixed up but I think Black is also one of the heavier colors to lay up. meaning it weights more. Dark weight more, Light weight less; or is it the other way around?
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“If I were in distress on the ocean I would want a white or bright colored canoe. Easier to spot while out on the ocean. If you have a black one then it’ll probably look like a baby whale or something.”
you would think that white is easy to spot, but not the case… this article on the surfski site was very interesting… (next run, i’m wearing a red or orange jersey)
The black and red scorpius is hands down the coolest oc-1 I have ever seen. I have had the same questions myself and been told that the black is heavier, hot to the touch.
The problem with the black is it gets hot…..the issue is if it heats up hotter than the temp the laminate was cured at, usually no more than 150 F, the laminate will actually go back to a sort of “gel” state and the laminate becomes rubbery and plyable. Not an issue in the water per se’, but when its strapped or on racks it will leave indents. Same goes for any darker color, but black is the worst. Also, as T-pop says, the darker colors tend te be somewhat transparent and reqiure either a base of white or a very heavy coat. Best colors for weight are those that have at least 50% white. They cover fast and light.
Aren’t those surfskis really more of the black color of the carbon fiber and not really any paint? It’s just like most of the composite paddles and blades being used out there.
Isn’t it more of the problem with the paint and colored gel coats used that they can’t take the heat as much and bubble under that higher temperature?
Doesn’t matter what color your boat is out there on the water, unless someone is actively looking in your direction for a long time, they still wouldn’t see you. A white OC-1/SS would blend in with the whitewash/waves on the open ocean making it harder to spot, even for a helicopter.
Rambo,
did you said 6kg??? i mean the EPIC surfsies?
nah
surreal……..we are talking about 7meters long?45cm wide?
no wonder they fly downhill…………..
i was so happy with my 20kg oc-1……jajjajajajaj!!
I’ve always had in mind make myself a “stealth” OC-1. No vertical surfaces or right angles, coat it with something rubbery to absorb radar, and absolutely no one will ever be able to find me if I don’t want them to.
It is difficult to judge waves at night with night vision goggles though. Something to do with depth perception.
Yeah, black. Dull black. low in the water, and dangerous.
Sinister black.
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
Here is my experimental nonferrous antimagnetic clandestine ama-less canoe.
Strange paddle…also experimental.
Why don’t OC-1’s have storage hatches?
If chicken track boy is so group-huggy, why does he not know how to spell “pray”?
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
I’m with you on the “holding hands and prey” on the other thread. I usually prey on bad spellers and when I prey there is no holding hands (remember rutters ?).
Huki actually offers storage hatches with an ingenious bag system. I guess most of us race and rather go minimal.
hey aqua, nice detective work- but sorry not the case.. but that does solve the other mystery why i kept getting personal messages from you with your phone number… here i am thinking you were trying to repair boats- now i understand…. you should contact buttaid for those services..
speaking of phone number dacho….I tried calling the one you gave me but it doesnt work. Could you confirm the numbers you gave me:
5’11”-185#—5.5”
hahahaha…………….
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I am not sure if there is a “good color” to go with on OCs. It’s up to you and your personal preference.
As for a pro or con, I’d imagine that commonsense dictates that since black absorbs sun radiation it could potentially get “hotter” than a comparable white hull (or light colors). But I believe the margins of heat difference would be negligible. Also, since it does absorb the radiation of the sun, the hull might not reflect the sun’s rays as much as a white hull (less bright). But again, I think is marginal: not necessarily a distinct pro or con.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 6:11am
15 Posts
Some folks don’t like colors because repairs are more difficult to match color.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 6:49am
14 Posts
I have a boat with some black on it. it started to bubble in that area. it still has its shine but the bubbling sucks. little tiny ones. that also means delamination. its the heat. you gotta keep the boat covered. when it sits in the sun and you touch it, its damn hot.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 7:15am
28 Posts
If I were in distress on the ocean I would want a white or bright colored canoe. Easier to spot while out on the ocean. If you have a black one then it’ll probably look like a baby whale or something.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 7:27am
555 Posts
In a hot climate, black is a bad choice. Here in AZ, a black hull would burn your hand, and if its that hot obviously its no good for the layup.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 8:23am
23 Posts
Black is bad…my friend had a black and silver Polaris and the black began to delaminate because of the heat absorbtion.
Enjoy the ride!
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 8:30am
127 Posts
I’m not sure if its true I could be mixed up but I think Black is also one of the heavier colors to lay up. meaning it weights more. Dark weight more, Light weight less; or is it the other way around?
We help because we want too not because we have too.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 8:36am
292 Posts
“If I were in distress on the ocean I would want a white or bright colored canoe. Easier to spot while out on the ocean. If you have a black one then it’ll probably look like a baby whale or something.”
you would think that white is easy to spot, but not the case… this article on the surfski site was very interesting… (next run, i’m wearing a red or orange jersey)
http://www.surfski.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=759&It...!
BTW, that site is crammed with some good info..
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 9:08am
344 Posts
The black and red scorpius is hands down the coolest oc-1 I have ever seen. I have had the same questions myself and been told that the black is heavier, hot to the touch.
Shawn Michael
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 10:06am
333 Posts
The problem with the black is it gets hot…..the issue is if it heats up hotter than the temp the laminate was cured at, usually no more than 150 F, the laminate will actually go back to a sort of “gel” state and the laminate becomes rubbery and plyable. Not an issue in the water per se’, but when its strapped or on racks it will leave indents. Same goes for any darker color, but black is the worst. Also, as T-pop says, the darker colors tend te be somewhat transparent and reqiure either a base of white or a very heavy coat. Best colors for weight are those that have at least 50% white. They cover fast and light.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 10:36am
113 Posts
Yellow is the heaviest according to Karel Sr. Lots of pigment is required to attain the bright yellow color thus making it heaviest .
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 12:11pm
14 Posts
its look cool if its not yours. whey you own you wish you chose a different color within a year.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 12:25pm
808 Posts
No reports of Epic having problems with their predominantly black 6kg Epic V 10 Surfskis?
Cheers Rambo
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Thu, 07/17/2008 - 1:32pm
79 Posts
Aren’t those surfskis really more of the black color of the carbon fiber and not really any paint? It’s just like most of the composite paddles and blades being used out there.
Isn’t it more of the problem with the paint and colored gel coats used that they can’t take the heat as much and bubble under that higher temperature?
Doesn’t matter what color your boat is out there on the water, unless someone is actively looking in your direction for a long time, they still wouldn’t see you. A white OC-1/SS would blend in with the whitewash/waves on the open ocean making it harder to spot, even for a helicopter.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 4:39pm
808 Posts
I use a hair drier and suction cup to pop the dents in my canoes, takes a lot of heat to soften the epoxy.
Most damage is done dropping a hot canoe in a cold ocean.
Cheers Rambo
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Thu, 07/17/2008 - 5:12pm
886 Posts
Oh, Yankee-you make that war stuff sound so…sexy!
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 7:12pm
813 Posts
i say th’ only way a boat will look good in black be when she fly`s a jolly roger overhead.
C.P.L.
Thu, 07/17/2008 - 7:26pm
808 Posts
What’s happened to our Gay man of Peace, haven’t see him in months???
Rambo
Oops .. He’s back … in the other thread.
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Fri, 07/18/2008 - 12:04am
232 Posts
Rambo,
did you said 6kg??? i mean the EPIC surfsies?
nah
surreal……..we are talking about 7meters long?45cm wide?
no wonder they fly downhill…………..
i was so happy with my 20kg oc-1……jajjajajajaj!!
unreal.
Fri, 07/18/2008 - 1:47am
808 Posts
Mariano, i think the ultralite sells for $6000 and features the Nomex honeycomb core. Sorry to blow your reality.
Mate your OC1 has more culture and was made with love.
Cheers Rambo
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Fri, 07/18/2008 - 2:12am
125 Posts
I sort of like black, flat black.
I’ve always had in mind make myself a “stealth” OC-1. No vertical surfaces or right angles, coat it with something rubbery to absorb radar, and absolutely no one will ever be able to find me if I don’t want them to.
It is difficult to judge waves at night with night vision goggles though. Something to do with depth perception.
Yeah, black. Dull black. low in the water, and dangerous.
Sinister black.
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
Fri, 07/18/2008 - 10:11am
125 Posts
Now shades of gray are nice and equally sinister.
Here is my experimental nonferrous antimagnetic clandestine ama-less canoe.
Strange paddle…also experimental.
Why don’t OC-1’s have storage hatches?
If chicken track boy is so group-huggy, why does he not know how to spell “pray”?
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
Fri, 07/18/2008 - 10:43am
304 Posts
I’m with you on the “holding hands and prey” on the other thread. I usually prey on bad spellers and when I prey there is no holding hands (remember rutters ?).
Huki actually offers storage hatches with an ingenious bag system. I guess most of us race and rather go minimal.
Fri, 07/18/2008 - 6:08pm
813 Posts
rambo, i think th’ gay man o’ peace only seems t’ appear when thar be an outstarboard battle goin’ on that needs t’ be mellowed ou’ a bit.
C.P.L.
Fri, 07/18/2008 - 9:45pm
292 Posts
some people’s idea of an do gooding alterego is running around in skin hugging tights and a cape..
does the flamin’ man of peace wear a cape?
then again, maybe a regular poster is acting out his/her latent fantasies by assuming that identity…
and of course, the obligatory: not that there’s anything wrong with that
Sat, 07/19/2008 - 6:56am
333 Posts
dacho Ive noticed that you and he are never logged on at the same time. Hmmmm………….could it be?
“not that there’s anything wrong with that” hehehehe.
Sat, 07/19/2008 - 8:01am
292 Posts
hey aqua, nice detective work- but sorry not the case.. but that does solve the other mystery why i kept getting personal messages from you with your phone number… here i am thinking you were trying to repair boats- now i understand…. you should contact buttaid for those services..
Sat, 07/19/2008 - 7:00pm
437 Posts
I think this is the kind of paddle you guys need !
Be water, my friend.
http://tuaruavaa.blogspot.com/
Sat, 07/19/2008 - 7:52pm
333 Posts
speaking of phone number dacho….I tried calling the one you gave me but it doesnt work. Could you confirm the numbers you gave me:
5’11”-185#—5.5”
hahahaha…………….
Sun, 07/20/2008 - 8:51am