I’d say the canoe had the right of way as they were closest to the break when they caught the wave. Those surfers dropped in on the canoe. You drop in on somene you take your chances, but maybe that break has different rules.
Mass wins every time. Yield to the vessel with the greatest mass. The canoe is unstoppable once it is on the wave but the surfboard is easily controlled and can be kicked off the wave quickly.
Ridiculously crowded conditions. Idiots on boards dropping in on each other. Idiots cruising on the inside that don’t start moving until it is too late. Idiots bringing a 6 man canoe into a busy line-up. Idiot that can’t handle and steers his heavy-ass canoe into 3 people. Everyday I am in the ocean I see discourteous and dangerous behavior from rude clueless people. Sometimes just plain rude people that do have a clue. Conditions are so irritating it makes me want to give up and join a gym instead. Imagine what it will be like in 5 more years. I shudder to think….
p.s. - if those were stand-up paddle surfers I would have thoroughly enjoyed the video. I would have laughed my ass off.
All he had to do was hold his course and everyone could have enjoyed themselves. In this instance that should not have been that hard. I think what happened is he saw the seated board surfers ahead of him at the last moment.
In multi-craft races I find myself calling out to kayaks, and surfskis not to draft me like pilot fish on a shark.
I had one lecture me in return about not steering a “straight course.” I had to point out that I did not have an in-line rudder and frequently had three paddles in the water on one side and two paddles on the other.”
OC-6’s do not proceed in a perfectly straight line no matter what your steersman says. They shimmy across the shimmering waves.
Ultimately the rule of gross tonnage prevails.
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
I am very glad we have yankeehookele’s analysis and great insight. Maybe he along with Jibofo, ninefeet, and wannabe should teach a class on how to be complete tools.
Perhaps it was just a bunch of people on different craft having a helluva good time in the waves with interesting bloopers along the way…
Who knows? I don’t fault anybody there, it was just a matter of circumstances; entertaining for sure just hope the surfer didn’t get his bell wrung too bad
BTW, once a canoe like that starts turning into the wave it’s about hopeless to correct so good steersman or not it’s just the way things turn out sometimes.
Nobody had right of way it was flat out beachbreak and everybody riding the foam. If you’re in the path of somebody riding wave it’s up to you to get out of thier way.
Say what??? Your critical of me saying to give the right of way to the surfers? Your saying that just because the canoe is 1500 pounds we can run down anyone we want who is smaller? Yeah, that attitude will make sure that paddlers are real popular everywhere.
If it is any concellation, I can’t figure out what’s bugging Numeruno either.
We were trying to analyze what might have happened. My guess at the end of the day, nothing much happened.
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
I’m pretty sure that’s Waikiki, no real rules out there to speak of. And I doubt the guy ran over those surfers on purpose. Once the spin out gets going it’s kinda hard to control. Generally, as both a surfer and paddler, I’d say you don’t usually canoe surf w/ a bunch of surfers around, but the surfers have to take care of themselves, too. The canoe is much harder to control, right?
KOOK fest.
That steersman got out of control and had no business in the brake.
If you can’t control the board or boat go off the main brake and have a blast.
The only reason it’s laughable is because its Kooks!
Keep in mind that this is Waikiki. There are pro surfers, first-timers on 50lb rental boards, canoes full of tourists, swimmers, catamarans, kayaks, and turds all bobbing around out there. No one has right of way! It’s just a matter of not colliding with your fellow wave riders and/or getting the hell out of the way when someone loses control.
it all started with the one kook on the longboard who sees the wave (maybe not the big canoe on the wave?) coming, and decides to turn and start paddling for the wave (with the telltale “turtle splash” paddling stroke)… the canoe should have run his ass over totally justified.
18 Posts
sick sense of humour if you think taking out fellow water users is funny.
Tue, 08/12/2008 - 10:55pm
265 Posts
I think its friggin funny. But im also sure that nobody got hurt or the vid would have a different name. And im sure it was an accident.
Tue, 08/12/2008 - 11:30pm
438 Posts
C’est pas cool…
Be water, my friend.
http://tuaruavaa.blogspot.com/
Tue, 08/12/2008 - 11:31pm
26 Posts
OK sorry, I’ll never do that again…
But, even as a surfer myself, I find it “funny” + it looks like nobody got hurt.
PS :
What are the rules on the waves between surfers and outrigger (out of the “good sens” rules of course) ?
http://fr.360.yahoo.com/ninefeetandover
Wed, 08/13/2008 - 12:14am
21 Posts
I’d say the canoe had the right of way as they were closest to the break when they caught the wave. Those surfers dropped in on the canoe. You drop in on somene you take your chances, but maybe that break has different rules.
Wed, 08/13/2008 - 2:18am
113 Posts
Mass wins every time. Yield to the vessel with the greatest mass. The canoe is unstoppable once it is on the wave but the surfboard is easily controlled and can be kicked off the wave quickly.
Wed, 08/13/2008 - 6:30am
556 Posts
I’d say if it was a regular surf break, and you were visiting in a canoe, respect the surfers.
Wed, 08/13/2008 - 1:00pm
26 Posts
everytime visiting a place, respect the locals…
http://fr.360.yahoo.com/ninefeetandover
Wed, 08/13/2008 - 9:00pm
2 Posts
Not funny at all.
Welcome to Hawaii!
Ridiculously crowded conditions. Idiots on boards dropping in on each other. Idiots cruising on the inside that don’t start moving until it is too late. Idiots bringing a 6 man canoe into a busy line-up. Idiot that can’t handle and steers his heavy-ass canoe into 3 people. Everyday I am in the ocean I see discourteous and dangerous behavior from rude clueless people. Sometimes just plain rude people that do have a clue. Conditions are so irritating it makes me want to give up and join a gym instead. Imagine what it will be like in 5 more years. I shudder to think….
p.s. - if those were stand-up paddle surfers I would have thoroughly enjoyed the video. I would have laughed my ass off.
Thu, 08/14/2008 - 9:47pm
27 Posts
“Conditions are so irritating it makes me want to give up and join a gym instead. “
Exactly…hopefully more people will feel this way and just go and join the gym…that would be awesome :) then I can get my surfspot back!
Thu, 08/14/2008 - 9:59pm
2 Posts
let me rephrase that.
it makes me want everyone else to give up and join a gym instead.
I need to be watered daily. Sunshine helps too.
Thu, 08/14/2008 - 10:08pm
125 Posts
I fault the steersman in this case.
All he had to do was hold his course and everyone could have enjoyed themselves. In this instance that should not have been that hard. I think what happened is he saw the seated board surfers ahead of him at the last moment.
In multi-craft races I find myself calling out to kayaks, and surfskis not to draft me like pilot fish on a shark.
I had one lecture me in return about not steering a “straight course.” I had to point out that I did not have an in-line rudder and frequently had three paddles in the water on one side and two paddles on the other.”
OC-6’s do not proceed in a perfectly straight line no matter what your steersman says. They shimmy across the shimmering waves.
Ultimately the rule of gross tonnage prevails.
~~~~~~~~~~
YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
Fri, 08/15/2008 - 5:30am
65 Posts
I am very glad we have yankeehookele’s analysis and great insight. Maybe he along with Jibofo, ninefeet, and wannabe should teach a class on how to be complete tools.
Fri, 08/15/2008 - 12:02pm
108 Posts
Perhaps it was just a bunch of people on different craft having a helluva good time in the waves with interesting bloopers along the way…
Who knows? I don’t fault anybody there, it was just a matter of circumstances; entertaining for sure just hope the surfer didn’t get his bell wrung too bad
BTW, once a canoe like that starts turning into the wave it’s about hopeless to correct so good steersman or not it’s just the way things turn out sometimes.
Nobody had right of way it was flat out beachbreak and everybody riding the foam. If you’re in the path of somebody riding wave it’s up to you to get out of thier way.
Good fun.
Fri, 08/15/2008 - 4:28pm
556 Posts
Say what??? Your critical of me saying to give the right of way to the surfers? Your saying that just because the canoe is 1500 pounds we can run down anyone we want who is smaller? Yeah, that attitude will make sure that paddlers are real popular everywhere.
Sun, 08/17/2008 - 2:06pm
125 Posts
Jibofo
If it is any concellation, I can’t figure out what’s bugging Numeruno either.
We were trying to analyze what might have happened. My guess at the end of the day, nothing much happened.
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
Sun, 08/17/2008 - 5:19pm
886 Posts
I’m pretty sure that’s Waikiki, no real rules out there to speak of. And I doubt the guy ran over those surfers on purpose. Once the spin out gets going it’s kinda hard to control. Generally, as both a surfer and paddler, I’d say you don’t usually canoe surf w/ a bunch of surfers around, but the surfers have to take care of themselves, too. The canoe is much harder to control, right?
Sun, 08/17/2008 - 5:42pm
21 Posts
KOOK fest.
That steersman got out of control and had no business in the brake.
If you can’t control the board or boat go off the main brake and have a blast.
The only reason it’s laughable is because its Kooks!
:)
Sun, 08/17/2008 - 6:47pm
1 Posts
That is Waikiki at a surf break called “Canoes.”
Sun, 08/17/2008 - 8:00pm
54 Posts
Keep in mind that this is Waikiki. There are pro surfers, first-timers on 50lb rental boards, canoes full of tourists, swimmers, catamarans, kayaks, and turds all bobbing around out there. No one has right of way! It’s just a matter of not colliding with your fellow wave riders and/or getting the hell out of the way when someone loses control.
Raphael
Raphael
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 7:49am
292 Posts
it all started with the one kook on the longboard who sees the wave (maybe not the big canoe on the wave?) coming, and decides to turn and start paddling for the wave (with the telltale “turtle splash” paddling stroke)… the canoe should have run his ass over totally justified.
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 8:30am
27 Posts
@ what level of surfing should you be at to gain the privilege of calling other people kooks ?
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 9:15am
436 Posts
At any level you like. I’ve never even seen a surfboard in real life before, and I’m calling people kooks left and right.
KOOK!
…and that’s a SCIENTIFIC FACT!
Go Kailua!
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 9:30am
292 Posts
when you’re no longer a kook..
and if you’re unsure, then you must be…. HA. just kidding..
i’ve been surfing for 20 years but after only surfing a few times all year because of paddling, i sure feel like one.
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 10:32am
8 Posts
If you surf there, that beachboy canoe sits in the lineup, the steerer is paid by the tourist/paddlers.
Now back to my favorite snack: Kookies and milk.
learning more every day…
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 11:00am
65 Posts
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 3:25pm
21 Posts
Oh my gosh!!!! … numerouno!!! retarded kook flick. so laughable… I’m from Oahu. Who picked up those ….. guys…. that are local??????
I believe this began with safety and kooks who don’t get it, whether 10 years of experience or 2 minutes!
Kooks can be greedy, kooks can just be stupid, kooks can think there very cool when every one in the brakes wants to kick their ass!
I’m sure there are more comments on kooks, safety, consideration, common sense, and an internal respect for the ocean.
:)
:)
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 6:39pm
65 Posts
wow debmaui…
Mon, 08/18/2008 - 10:49pm