30 Second OC 1 Performance Survey For Paddlers Online - Recent News

eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

This is a short easy survey - CLICK THE LINK if interested - where you can rate the performance of your OC 1.
I will post the results for you.

Please be somewhat critical that others may get a good idea how your boat performs. It’s all subjective, but still valid.

Please rate : 1 = average, 2 = good, 3= very good, 4= excellent
For intended height: please put in ft’inches”

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA

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OutriggerCanoe Design
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Submitted by eckhart on Fri, 09/05/2008 - 9:22am.


dacho
Joined 2003-09-17
293 Posts

eck,
suggestion: you might want to add weight, height, experience level, since that seems to be some of the most common questions.

to fit in your grading system:
height:
1-under 5’3
2-5’3-5’7
3 5-8-6-0
4 6-0-6-4
5 over 6’4
something to that effect

weight similar to above

Fri, 09/05/2008 - 9:38am


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

Dacho - thank you.

I have sent/am sending a spreadsheet related form to the builders where I inquire about the weight the boat is intended for.

If you go to the blog - click below - at the left bottom you can see - option to enlarge - the spreadsheet and the information that we are trying to collect.

The height thing is a great idea - mahalo.

We will try to make some short video profiles of paddlers that are interested. There we can mention their experience.

http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Fri, 09/05/2008 - 9:45am


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

I have added :

  • paddler’s intended height
  • build quality

if you have taken the survey before and want to comment on these two, please just put the name of the canoe and fill in these two features but leave the other features blank that we don’t duplicate data.
We are looking for averages.

Thanks to everybody that has responded so far - great response.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Fri, 09/05/2008 - 9:56am


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

First results have been posted, to see them please click the link below:

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Fri, 09/05/2008 - 10:52am


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

Ka Nalu Nui has been rated - the first Argentinian OC 1 !

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Fri, 09/05/2008 - 11:20am


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

You can watch the ka nalu nui in action; I linked to the youtube video on my blog; click below.

http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Fri, 09/05/2008 - 11:32am


marianolarghi
marianolarghi's picture
Joined 2006-06-02
238 Posts

Aloha eckhart!
and mahalos for putting us in the map!

this pic shows the first oc-1 of my country!

http://outriggercanoe.ning.com/photo/photo/show?id=2032409:Photo:1739

good job on your new project, i think we all can learn together!

Fri, 09/05/2008 - 11:43am


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

Mariano - if you would like to publish your canoe’s specs in the OC 1 Comparison Chart - this is a different survey - please go to the blog, click the related link, fill in and submit.
I have to do some revision.

This spreadsheet has contact info of builders, technical data etc, too.

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Fri, 09/05/2008 - 11:53am


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

First trend:

rating on flat water, upwind - generally a little lower

mixed bag on steering

generally high rating on quality of build.

Tip: height: put in a range if you want
Tip: not registered guests can post, too, can they ?

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Fri, 09/05/2008 - 4:00pm


Shawn Michael
Joined 2008-01-06
344 Posts

If I had more experience I would respond, but I have never been in big waves on the fusion. Great ideas thought, bravo, it is about time. Between you and Rambo, we have a library of info.

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Shawn Michael

Fri, 09/05/2008 - 6:08pm


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

Shawn - just leave out the comment on ‘big’, but please post your feed back.

Your input is important: the more feedback, the better. In the end I will publish averages.

Comfort, build everything is important.

I left experience out on purpose.

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Sat, 09/06/2008 - 3:51pm


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

Update:

  • about 50 responses so far
  • boats most frequently mentioned: Fusion, Hurricane, Kaimana, Pegasus, Pueo
  • surprise: only one Scorpius so far.

This raised some questions for me:

How many OC 1 are actually out there/have been sold,
how many are actively being paddled,
how many of those visit www.ocpaddler.com,
how many of the latter care to respond to the survey ?

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Sat, 09/06/2008 - 3:51pm


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

More reports are trickeling in - thank you. Keep on posting:
http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA

The Pueo is getting high ratings.

If you want to see the Pueo in action from google video:

http://oc1design.blogspot.com/2008/09/pueo.html

with comment from a first time user !

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Sat, 09/06/2008 - 7:40pm


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

About 60 comments on OC 1 performance so far. I’d like to reach about 100, 10 for the most common brands. Mahalo.

http://spreadsheets.google.com/viewform?key=pysrKeQ8s9Fm7aB9Xab5YTA

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Sun, 09/07/2008 - 10:40am


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

The Hurricane has been most reported. Here are the averages:

Hurricane - Performance:

  • flat water: 3.92
  • up to 4 feet: 3.21
  • 4 - 8 feet: 2.5
  • big: 2.3
  • upwind: 3
  • steering: 2.33
  • set up/rigging: 3.75
  • comfort: 1.88
  • quality of build: 3.36

Looks pretty representative, doesn’t it ?
4 is ‘excellent’, 1 is ‘average’

65 paddlers have responded how they feel about their boat so far.
Hopefully more will post.

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Sun, 09/07/2008 - 7:25pm


Shawn Michael
Joined 2008-01-06
344 Posts

Hard to imagine these canoes like getting all 4s hopefully folks will be real, very interesting.

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Shawn Michael

Sun, 09/07/2008 - 9:35pm


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

Shawn. please have a look at the report on the Pueo that I received in the mail:

Like you, I wonder about a ‘4’ on all ratings.

However, if the Pueo has a better footwell that allows the paddler to apply more pressure - as described in the post - than it could be that a boat that is meant to do well in the surf could also be paddled well in the flat.
The improvement would then be in the cockpit and not at the under water hull.
Similarly, the seat design of the Fusion/Fuze/Zephyr allows very good control of the boat in the open ocean - that may lead to better performance.

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Sun, 09/07/2008 - 10:34pm


eckhart
Joined 2005-10-14
428 Posts

Latest news - Some new videos on my blog.

Labels:
- OC 1 Video Review
- OC 1 Downwind Technique

About 80 paddlers rated their OC 1; I will soon be able to publish another average.

The World Map Of OC 1 Dealerships is growing and can be enlarged now - most of those guys live in very nice places.

Tell me, does ‘fuzerider’ - distributor in Maine - have an outrigger behind his house on google maps ?

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OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com

Mon, 09/08/2008 - 1:28pm


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