I want to buy a new paddle. I was checking the Kialoa site and the Keone looks very interesting. For those who do own the Keone, what is your opinion on it.
Submitted by Harry on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 7:30am
I want to buy a new paddle. I was checking the Kialoa site and the Keone looks very interesting. For those who do own the Keone, what is your opinion on it.
Submitted by Harry on Mon, 09/08/2008 - 7:30am
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I bought one for my boyfriend a few years back , we both love it Its light( as composite blades are) and it flexes.No more sore shoulders. You can really feel it flex a little.
#1 Mon, 09/08/2008 - 8:26am
Bruddah Harry....bump it up and go get the Lolo. Everyone swears by it. At the World Sprints people were snatching them up. Sticker shock is scaring me away, but I am dying to try one out. Only heard great things about that paddle.
#2 Mon, 09/08/2008 - 2:55pm
The Keone is nice and light. sleek shaft and good feel.
i love it!
#3 Mon, 09/08/2008 - 6:13pm
I got 1 of the 1st ones out. I called Meg to order a new Outrigger 10 for me and she told me about the Keone which was just becoming available. I trusted her judgement and ordered 1 in a 50" for OC6/OC1. Without doubt it is my favorite blade. Great catch, light enough to feel the difference but still solid on windy days recovery, nice handle and yes, even I can feel the flex when you put the bite on. I don't loan it out much, but everyone who has tried it has gotten 1. Plus, with a dark Aloha splash it looks so cool!
I reccomend it highly.
#4 Mon, 09/08/2008 - 6:19pm
It's my current favorite right now that I use daily. I like the flex it has which feels like using a wooden paddle, only lighter.
The Lolo is okay, but that bent shaft can feel wierd using it sometimes. Too bad they don't have one without the bend as I'd wonder if it would feel like the Keone, but without the flex.
#5 Mon, 09/08/2008 - 10:28pm
What are you going to be using the blade for OC6 or OC1?
#6 Tue, 09/09/2008 - 7:36am
Hi Tpoppler01,
it's for a OC-1, any others paddles models you recommend? What about the Hollyakala and the Mudbrook XP MudLite? Is there too much difference between a 9.25" and a 9". I am 165 lbs. and my stroke is short.
Thanks for your help.
#7 Tue, 09/09/2008 - 8:56am
makana ali`i
broad reach
the nicest paddles i used!
#8 Tue, 09/09/2008 - 3:49pm
If you can get a makana ali'i those things are like the gold standard... No but any blade you feel comfortable with will work, I use a mudbrooke and I swear by mine, I like it because it has a smooth catch and is really clean through the water.
#9 Tue, 09/09/2008 - 3:57pm
coming from a paddle maker. you get what you feel is right for you as a paddler should get what feels comfort for you .. .see if you can use some one elses paddle and try it before you make descisions .. aloha danny
#10 Tue, 09/09/2008 - 6:37pm
I ordered my 2nd broad reach today. I love my Tahiti Rame but have to wait for someone to take a trip to get one. Im excited to try a "normal" size broad reach. I love the one I have but the blade could shovel snow so I only use it every so often.
#11 Tue, 09/09/2008 - 7:59pm
Tried a few blades for oc1 but really liked the Keone. It took a week or so to get used to the swing weight but on those over 1hr plus paddles it is great.
Misery is Optional.....
#12 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 10:26am
I have a Kialoa Axel II and a Mudbrook Mudlight XP. I use both pretty regularly for OC-1 and OC-6. The biggest difference I've noticed is the Mudbrook has a bit thicker shaft than the Axel II. It's a different feel and I'm still undecided which I like better, but I definitely prefer the wood shaft over the all carbons I've tried.
#13 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 10:50am
if you can get one Makana Ali'i then you will love it so much...
i used my friend's one and it
has a good bite at the beginning of the stroke and some flex too and it is smooth on those high rev stroke rates as well...
#14 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 1:20pm
It's an extremely comfy paddle, but considering how the Tahitians go w/ those big, relatively heavy woooden paddles, I'm wondering if comfort should always be the main concern or not. Especially in the oc6, I think a little more heft is better, but there's no doubt the Keone is the most comfortable paddle I've ever tried.
#15 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 2:43pm
I started paddling in August and the Keone is the first and only paddle I've ever used. It's great! I'm curious to try something else, I feel I can move more water.........
#16 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 3:15pm
Give Kialoa an email, I know they have cut down some stand up long blades. The blade is bigger so you can catch and push back more water if you like....
The shaft may be stiffer, ask and they will tell you...
#17 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 6:22pm
I actually have one of those all carbon Lanikai blades w/ the cut off SUP shaft. It's an awesome paddle, but I think the stiffness would cause injuries in most users. I think that's why Dave doesn't mass produce them, but yes, Herman, that Keone blade is small. Knowing Dave, I'm sure he has a design in the works that'll incorporate a larger blade w/ a flexible shaft. The larger lanikai blade will not properly accept the Keone shaft. (insert gratuitous sophomoric humor here!)
#18 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 7:31pm
Thanks Jim, are you savy on those IHE paddles? They look interesting / more surface area?
#19 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 7:36pm
Don't know much about them, but I've seen a lot of gimmicks come and go w/ nothing really getting better than that Tahitian tear drop design we first saw in Hawai'i in the late seventies. Who knows, though? It might be awesome. Right now, the hot piece of equipment seems to be the Pueo, and to me it also goes back to a Tahitian design, especially the ama. There's nothing new under the sun, they say, and the Tahitians have been racing canoes for 10-20,000 years or so. Go figger, eh?
#20 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 7:46pm
Please don't exagerate... 10,000 years ago there were no Polynesians at all ! Our civilisation is much younger than that. More like 2,000 years...
#21 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 9:00pm
My favorite is my Lanikai but what I wish for Christmas is a
Werner - Compulsion Outrigger Paddle
#22 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 9:58pm
check this
http://select-kayaks.com/fr/pagaies/outrigger/
#23 Wed, 11/26/2008 - 10:21pm
Yes, Hiro, Polynesians have only been in Tahiti for about 2,000 yrs., but I reckon their ancestors got there in Va'a of some kind. One of the oldest dugouts that has been found is dated to around 8k yrs. ago (Africa), and I believe the technology may have been around for much longer than that, and been more widespread in terms of geography. In my opinion, the 10 -20k yrs. ago number is entirely possible, considering the technological state of the canoes that have been found.
#24 Thu, 11/27/2008 - 6:05am
Hiro,
Where do you come up with some of these gorgeous paddles? You always manage to point to really cool stuff that is totally unavailable in the US and then I sit here and cry ;> I would LOVE to try one of those Select blades!
#25 Wed, 12/10/2008 - 8:44am
Lots of googling time ;-)
Select is best known for making fins for windsurf boards.
I have a Select SUP paddle, but haven't managed to put my hands on their Va'a paddle...
#26 Wed, 12/10/2008 - 11:54am
Hiro C.:
Just ordered one for myself as a Christmas present, despite the extraordinarily high shipping costs to get one to the US (bent shaft, all carbon, med blade). I will snap some photos when it comes in... and then pray for an early spring ;>
Cat
#27 Fri, 12/12/2008 - 9:22am
Before we started carrying Kialoa paddles, I had Kialoamake me a Keone with a full aloha fabric inlay in bright orange( hey it matched the canoe at the time!)
being shorter in stature, I ordered it uncut and took the paddle down short for one man use. as the shaft is somewaht tapered, I noticed a signifcant difference in the flex of this paddle ( much stiffer) when I was finished.
my .02? the Keone is an excellent paddle, just be careful of expecting wood like flex when it's ordered in shorter length shafts.
Mele Kalikimaka!
Roscoe
www.outrigger.ca
www.theoceanexperience.blogspot.com
#28 Fri, 12/12/2008 - 9:56am
Does anyone use the ZRE power surge Outrigger blade with the flexible shaft. I've got three outrigger blades and a couple of marathon paddles. They don't seem to get a mention here. The flexible shaft was a great improvement and my elbow pain went away when I changed to this shaft.
#29 Mon, 12/15/2008 - 5:57am
Someone else mentioned they had a ZRE OR Power Surge with a flex shaft in one of the many "Paddle" threads.
I have a ZRE OR Power Surge Medium with the regular shaft that I use when I don't use the Keone. I was thinking about ordering one or getting the parts to put together to see how it would feel, but haven't gotten around to it.
I recently found a Quick Blade Tornado Carbon that was made with a flexible round shaft that actually flexes much like the Keone. When I put it next to the ZRE, the blade shape and size is almost exactly the same (9.25 inches). I believe QB doesn't make this version with the flex shaft anymore though.
#30 Mon, 12/15/2008 - 10:15am
Hiro C.:
My Select Double Bend Medium Carbon arrived today from France! It is stunningly beautiful. The finish is terrific and the blade looks awesome. It's nicely weighted and feels like it's got a nice swing to it. Now if it weren't raining, sleeting and 34? here in Philadelphia, I'd go on a Polar Bear Paddle tomorrow and test it out.
I'll keep you posted when I get the chance to actually use it. You should see it :>
Cat
#31 Fri, 12/19/2008 - 11:13am
Yo Catgirl....you collecting the toys...next year you betta make some NOiZ! (Get a 1-man! ; )
#32 Sat, 12/20/2008 - 3:49am
drewp:
I hope to make some NOIZ ;> And I'd kill for a one man of my own, but no place to keep it... and the PDBA boats are mighty convenient! Signed up for an OC camp in March, too, so hopefully I'll learn a lot.
Cat
PS: I downloaded your "cold weather" photo to my iPhoto.... :>
#33 Sat, 12/20/2008 - 7:06am
Some photos of the Select, as promised:
#34 Sun, 12/21/2008 - 4:54am