Just some short points about the Pueo for those of you that are interested. I had a chance to paddle the boat in
Kailua Bay, Pinky’s canal.
what I liked:
- very good glide in flat water - competitive with the Hurricane
- very well balanced - the ama comes up with every stroke, yet the boat does not feel tippy.
- single foot well - comfortable
- seat, Fusion style - comfortable
- set up - ama easy to attach, three snaps and one screw - very well done
- very responsive steering - even on the waves the boat goes easily right and left
- very easy take off downwind
- didn’t feel the ama
anything to improve ?
- the boat felt light - actually 18 lbs. For me a little more weight would be fine. This particular boat did not have the new and slightly heavier core material yet.
- while surfing downwind the boat takes off very well, but you need to keep paddling for max efficiency. It’s not like a Zephyr that runs on it’s own once it’s going. A question of mass ?
- I know it’s not realistic due to material cost and labor: it would be nice if all OC 1s could be offered at lower prices.
Maybe a fiberglass layup with a real thick core and less high tech materials overall could be an option.
- it is not a high volume boat; I weigh about 205/210, no problems though.
- the foot well should be placed according to customer needs - tall, average, small. I felt that I was sitting slightly behind the sweet spot; Kamanu composites is considering this feature for the future.
Afterwards, I went to the factory and had a look: very impressive, this is serious business. One of the hulls was being prepared for layup. It had a new core material, really nice stuff, probably 8 - 9 mm thick, and stiff. Nice tooling, all professional grade. Waiting time for a boat is 3 1/2 months at this time. Three different prices according to layup/core material used.
After paddling a variety of boats in the recent past I can assure you: it’s not the engine, it’s the boat ! :).
Tommy Connor’s Striker and this Pueo are my current favorites.
I remain loyal to the Fusion when it get’s big - the further out we paddle, the more I appreciate that boat’s sturdiness.
PS: Goodwaka, keep your rudderless stuff, go get yourself a ……. :)
Submitted by eckhart on Sun, 10/12/2008 - 10:14am.
109 Posts
No rudder needed for real surfing. Your rudder steered outrigger ski is no good for hollow North shore barrels.
wakabonez
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 12:30pm
128 Posts
Tahitians dominate Molokai.
Tahitians favor rudderless individual boats.
Correlation?
Hmmmm.
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
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YankeeHo’okele
“Anyone can steer the ship when the sea is calm” - Syrus Publilius
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 12:36pm
109 Posts
Got to be a strong argument for that
wakabonez
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 12:37pm
446 Posts
Tahitians dominate Molokai.
Tahitians favor Hinano and cigarettes.
Correlation?
Hmmmm.
Be water, my friend.
http://tuaruavaa.blogspot.com/
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 1:30pm
109 Posts
Shell va’a leading by 4 Km was amazing….. now your’e saying they smoke cigarettes too….. Gobsmacked!
Who needs a rudder when when all it takes is cigarettes.
wakabonez
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 5:23pm
109 Posts
Hiro C;
Maybe you can give some more info…..OK Hinano is tops, but which cigarette brand is the fastest
wakabonez
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 6:04pm
446 Posts
“Bison”
You will not find it anywhere. It’s brown tobacco, so strong that they can’t sell it anywhere else in the world. (Does not meet European or American regulations). You have to roll your cigarettes by yourself, no filter !
Be water, my friend.
http://tuaruavaa.blogspot.com/
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 8:00pm
109 Posts
Oh, that kind….then weve been fooled because it burns so badly that you need to blow into the paper tube to keep it alight. Saves the lungs from harm of smoke inhalation.
wakabonez
Sun, 10/12/2008 - 9:38pm
446 Posts
Or use your lighter 10 times for one cigarette. You end up not smoking halt of it because you burn your nose with the lighter… ;-)
Be water, my friend.
http://tuaruavaa.blogspot.com/
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 9:34am
25 Posts
Hinano, Marlboro Rouge, Rudderless, and 4 hours of practice 6 times a week at a club site with weights, V1’s, V6’s, ans sponsor money… It’s a great combination.
:)
But honestly it’s the Jack Daniels.
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 11:51am
446 Posts
eckhart,
sorry for hijacking… ;-)
Be water, my friend.
http://tuaruavaa.blogspot.com/
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 12:25pm
27 Posts
eckhart,
IWas the 18 pound boat the demo boat ?
Mon, 10/13/2008 - 3:40pm
50 Posts
kamanu
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 8:26pm
36 Posts
Thanks for the props Eckhart. Strikers only available to immediate family and close personal friends. Lanikai has been working on their stroke rate. 2007 #1 crew was at 65-66. 2008 #1 crew at 70-72. Shell improved their time over last year by 2 minutes. Lanikai improved their time by 14 minutes. It all depends on how flexible the individuals are to adapt to changes in the application. Some people are rigid and inflexible and not able to make the transition. This years crew had no problem with the higher rate but ran a little short on fuel in the last hour of the race.
Tue, 10/14/2008 - 9:04pm
428 Posts
You’re welcome. We had one morning when a paddle buddy wanted to demonstrate that it’s the engine and not the boat - so he let me try his Striker. The result was that the Striker made a definite difference.
Got to build my own boat now; actually I have started doing it. I have some ideas and just want to see if they will work. It might take a while.
Lanikai did great.
OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 1:52am
428 Posts
According to Kamanu, yes. It was mentioned as a side note.
I am sure that some people will move up in the field with this boat.
OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 1:58am
428 Posts
oops
OutriggerCanoe Design
http://www.oc1design.blogspot.com
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 1:59am
238 Posts
Echart,
build your boat, you wont regret it, its a lot of work, time and money, but if you love paddling, you will do it even more in your own boat…….
Aloha!
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 2:00am
27 Posts
i have been told that the ultra-lites are about 20-21 lbs and standard are around 23 lbs, it seems like a pretty standard weight in nowadays canoes. I tried the demo as well, downwind and surfing was as expected, but flat and up-hill was phenomenal. Loved the new ama.
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 5:44am
309 Posts
just to clarify—-
the demo that Eckhart used was actually an ultra light coremat lay-up. The standard demo and the standard canoes that we build are as paddle_easy said, and between 20-23 pounds.
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:06am
140 Posts
Hi Luke,
Below is ASSuming you are not already using coremat as std.
If you guys are getting 18 pounds or even under 20 with the coremat, are you gonna stick with it ?
Performance is there, fast to build, EZ to repair + lower cost to pass on to buyers.
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 11:22am
16 Posts
Looks like the tahitians, discovered the PUEO!
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 8:59pm
51 Posts
Last I checked…Puni is Hawaiian….
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 9:29pm
82 Posts
Don’t let the Tahitian blade fool you.
Moku Nui
Big Island Roots
Is on the Ama.
Also, got to see a Pueo today when Mel Puu came paddling on by our group of OC-1’s paddling around. All I can say is NICE!!!
Wed, 10/15/2008 - 10:36pm