are you a total wuss if you paddle a two man and draft off a one man?

I've been doing this lately, should I feel guilty?

Because the only thing I feel guilty about now is being a badass paddler.

Submitted by numerouno on Thu, 02/12/2009 - 5:31pm



Would it make you feel better to let the one man get away from you? From a flatwater marathon racing background I think everyone is fair game if they go faster than you. But it does seem to be frowned upon. I feel it's just another skill that is handy to have. (Riding a wash)

Using your own support boat etc for an unfair advantage is not what we are talking about. Just racing between canoes. And as you get older you better learn to hang on.


#1 Thu, 02/12/2009 - 5:53pm


Badass huh? Try drafting Holzman, Kinard or Crabb in an OC1 race. OC2, try drafting Von/Slocumb.


#2 Thu, 02/12/2009 - 7:07pm


What about drafting Lauren Bartlett, did anyone see the results in the Lulu's race.


#3 Thu, 02/12/2009 - 7:37pm


Strange how there are different "rules" about this in different places. SoCal its a no no to draft off someone in a different class, here on Maui anything is fair game. That said, its humbling when you're on an OC2 and you can't sit on an OC1. There are some fricken fast paddlers out there.


#4 Thu, 02/12/2009 - 8:54pm


Yea I guess it matters who you follow. There are some fast 12Bs out there, hard to keep up with them.


#5 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 7:32am


And what’s the etiquette about how close to draft? I was in a race a while back where a guy kept knocking into the stern of my canoe. I turned back a couple times and shot a nasty look, but he seemed rather nonpulsed.

Is it acceptable to draft that close?


#6 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 8:16am


Just let the canoe drift around abit so he has to work to stay there and when you spot him moving off the back put in a few efforts. It is bad etiquette to tap the guy in front giving you a lift. On the river we would just line him up with the next snag or take him over a sandbar.!


#7 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 8:30am


If there's no rule against drafting I don't see why you shouldn't. Saves you someting like 10% of work effort in flatwater kayaking. I don't see how you could draft well in open ocean conditions on another OC-1. I've drafted halfway across the bay off of the dive boats coming out of hawaii kai. Fun.


#8 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 11:10am


If someone was behind me
banging into my stern of my canoe...
they would mos defitinely get a blade to the head...
and a beating after the race....

personally I think drafting is smart way to race, but if you want to know who's faster, then a side by side race is the way to go....


#9 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 11:31am


When I first moved to Washington, I didn't know about drafting, other than it's frowned upon and not very useful in Hawaii. In my first race here, this guy drafted me for like 80% of the race and then passed me at the end. I wanted to kill him, but now I realize that it's an important part of the game in flatwater. It's still unsportsmanlike, IMO.


#10 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 2:29pm


This what happens to paddlers that draft me


#11 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 2:35pm


maby try not to look back till the race is over


#12 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 4:04pm


Yes!


#13 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 4:26pm


About the only time I draft in the ocean is at the start and into the wind. Just can't see the point in damaging my beautiful China Polly. I spent alot of money on her. Some guys that are clearly on a differant budget just bang straight into you. I know it's all part of racing but I can't afford the damage.

And don't let Rambo fool you into believing he never rides a wash. His RedX movie will show us wash riding kayaks in our OC2 every morning of the race.


#14 Fri, 02/13/2009 - 5:04pm


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