I was wondering what a fast time is for a 400 meter sprint in an oc1 in flat/relatively calm water.
What's a "fast" time? What's an "average" time?
I know that there are many factors involved - wind, current, boat used, paddle etc. - but I wanted to just get a general frame of reference from all of you.
Thanks!
Submitted by effectivepull on Sun, 03/22/2009 - 1:39pm
2008 IVF World Sprints Sacramento
Open Men - V1 500 meter sprint Final
1st DUBOIS Taaroa, Bob, Albert Tahiti 2:10.01
2nd Lai Fao, Romeo Tahiti 2:10.75
3rd VAIRAAROA Tainuiatea Tahiti 2:11.61
so fast would be 1:44 for them guys but under 2 min would be considered fast for mere mortals.
#1 Sun, 03/22/2009 - 3:09pm
1/4 mile in about 2 minutes sounds about right for the fast guys. Looking at the Koa Nui results for the Stage I 2-mile time trial took Danny and Kai 16:27.11 and 16:39.65 to complete and that was on a winding course on flat water and not a straightaway.
#2 Sun, 03/22/2009 - 3:35pm
Oh, I thought it was the Pueo that did 16:27.11 and the Scorpius that did 16:39.65 - now you tell us that it was actually Danny and Kai.
Since when has it been about the paddler? I thought (and correct me if I am mistaken here) that everyone on here thought that it was only about the canoe!?!?!?...
#3 Sun, 03/22/2009 - 3:52pm
What time difference would there be between a V1 and OC1? Any?
I thought a rudder would add more drag, but us mere mortals would be able to use less steering strokes and more power.... do the times even out?
#4 Sun, 03/22/2009 - 11:09pm
A Va'a style canoe would smash a ruddered in a flat water sprint. With skilled paddlers on both.
No drag, 1m longer, 10 to 100mm narrower. Made for it.
Now 20 knot side wind things would change. But under most sprint conditions.
And yeah smoking fasting would be 1:48 for 400m and up to 2 min's is still pretty sweet.
Do you guys do a 400m sprint option? or is that just the course you have set on some buoys?
#5 Mon, 03/23/2009 - 2:07pm
I buy that Dodgiebro,
I remember a rudderless Kauai paddler (Baker?) who use to blow away all the ruddered "lagoon" style canoes on the Ala Wai. I belive the Ala Wai sprint races were 200 or 250 meters long. So in the flat, my bet is on the v-1, but in the chop, I'll bet on the ruddered oc-1.
#6 Mon, 03/23/2009 - 2:32pm
Thanks for the input and giving me a frame of reference.
The reason I asked was I'm trying to see where I stack up as I'll be testing for the USDBF Prague team and have no idea what oc1 times are competitive.
The gps unit I was using may have malfunctioned (it flashed a low battery warning before the piece) or I got caught in some crazy tail wind (actually, there was a some side wind). According to the gps unit, I did a 1:43 for 400m with a dragon boat paddle. I thought I was closer to a 2:18.
The gps unit HAS to be wrong.
I'll run it again to verify.
#7 Mon, 03/23/2009 - 5:19pm
Unless you are unofficially the fastest paddler on the planet.
Well, I was having some thoughts on the 1:44 time, which is set at a 2:10, 500m pace... so it would be understandable to think that you could go under the 1:40 mark for 400m.
#8 Mon, 03/23/2009 - 8:37pm
I wouldn't mind taking that unofficial title, but it wouldn't be warranted. ;)
#9 Tue, 03/24/2009 - 10:10am