V1 huli recovery

Just curious if anyone knows a way to get back into a V1 from the off ama side. I've tried in shallow water without much success and I'm not sure if it's me or well, me.

Submitted by anowara on Fri, 05/01/2009 - 2:41am



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Why would you want to do that ?


#1 Fri, 05/01/2009 - 7:55am


V1 or OC1 -- in other words cockpit or no? (just to be clear)


#2 Fri, 05/01/2009 - 10:09am


V1 with a cockpit.

Hiro, just curious since this is the fastest way back on an OC-1. Since I'm a long way from Tahiti and most people's idea of good video footage isn't watching some poor soul recovery from a huli I wasn't sure if this is how most paddlers reenter a V1 or not. Based on your comment I'm guessing you usually swim under/around and enter from the ama side?


#3 Sat, 05/02/2009 - 4:01am


Yep ! Never seen anyone trying to get back from off ama side after a huli. Of course it take some time to swim under the hull but not that much. You would loose much more time if you huli a second time while trying to recover from the first one.
But maybe it's possible to achiev what you want to do. Try and practice...


#4 Sat, 05/02/2009 - 2:14pm


As an OC paddler a reason for climbing in on the right after a huli is to avoid the need to unleash pull the leash around the hull and reattach it after a huli. getting in on the right is often easier. Are you leashed to a V1?

I guess since you are bailing anyways the time taken to swim under, unleash etc is not that much. For an OC though it can double huli recovery time.
Jeff


#5 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 12:30am


Thanks Hiro and jw.

I use a leash on the windy days when paddling an OC-1, have used it with a V1 and realized I'll have to unleash to get back to the other side of the boat after a huli and was curious what other people do or if someone knows a way to do it from the off ama side. Sounds like it's not done that way, so a new question:

Do people normally use a leash with a V1 and what's the setup so you don't have to unleash when recovering from a huli? If you leash up but do take it off to recover, why?

Thanks!


#6 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 2:57am


Just put a quick release stainless steel carabiner on the canoe end of the leash, unhook when you huli, mount the canoe, re-hitch. Should take no longer than 10 seconds and you're on your way.

Rambo


#7 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 3:04am


Rambo, that's what I was going to say !

Not much people use a leash with a V1, I do when it's very windy tough. Never hulied while I was tied to the canoe yet...


#8 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 12:14pm


Great minds think alike eh Hiro ... .ha-ha

Rambo


#9 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 12:28pm


If you leash up but do take it off to recover, why?

You leash up so your craft don't get too far away from you to swim after and just worry about holding your paddle. If you're smart, you learn to recover first and then disconnect/re-connect the leash. Heard and read stories of people unleashing before recovering and they had to swim after their craft. Some even lost their OC-1/surfski's to the winds.

A simple stainless steel quick release caribiner like the one mentioned and pictured below makes it easy to disconnect and re-connect in a snap.

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#10 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 12:46pm


I actually prefer something more like this. The type E7M provided a picture of tend to have sharp points on the gate key that will puncture your finger and not be pleasant at all to handle one handed. They also tend to have stronger springs that make one handed operation more difficult. If you only paddle freshwater you can get a cheap aluminum biner and just wash it off after each session. It might eventually corrode but it will take awhile for this to occur. Probably get a season of use out of an aluminum one in salt water. Black Diamond makes a nice small called the Neutrino that is easy to handle one handed. Petzl probably makes something similar.

I understand why you wear a leash, ask Jim for his Puget Sound story with a surfski. What I was wondering was more why wear a leash you have to disconnect to get back in the boat or that makes your entry more complicated. What E7M said about recovering first makes plenty of sense and is probably the best solution.


#11 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 2:49pm


I'been using this for years in the surfski:
Scotty snap hook:
http://www.austinkayak.com/products/273/Scotty-Nylon-Snap-Hook-590.html

It doesn't corrode and fits on swivel of a leash after slight
hole enlargement. It is much easier to operate with one
hand than carabiner - and you only have one hand to do anything if you are in the ski.

You need to be able to unhook the leash after remount
ski because leash usually get tangled up in all the wrong places.
Besides if you are coming to the beach through surf
you better get disconnected too.

For those who deal with really big water sissor snap is better option
:http://www.berkeleypoint.com/products/hardware/triggersnapdbail.html


#12 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 6:19pm


I don't think a leash is all that necessary in a V-1. Initially you probably wont be paddling it in weather that's windy enough to take it away from you if you huli. And, I could be wrong, but I would think that it wouldn't drift away upside down nearly as quickly as an OC-1.

Would be an interesting thing to test.... see how quickly a V-1 will drift away upside down.


#13 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 9:13pm


wait a minute... there are leashes?!?For one man's? When did this happen?!?


#14 Mon, 05/04/2009 - 9:55pm


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