Molokai 2009

Was talking with a friend about the next Molokai OC6 race.
He told me "What race ? Are you sure they're going to run the Molo this year ? They must be tired of loosing !"

;-)

Submitted by Hiro C. on Tue, 05/12/2009 - 1:00pm



hiro.... looking for some fireworks eh? i thought last year was the last year for shell? they coming back?


#1 Tue, 05/12/2009 - 1:33pm


Yeah there's just too much Aloha on this forum these days...


#2 Tue, 05/12/2009 - 1:40pm


Hiro,

Got a favorite this weekend ? : 0

aloha,
pog


#3 Tue, 05/12/2009 - 1:53pm


For the Epic ? I will support Lewis... 3 in a row would be just great !


#4 Tue, 05/12/2009 - 2:04pm


What happened in the solo?


#5 Tue, 05/12/2009 - 5:45pm


low. low. low. blow


#6 Tue, 05/12/2009 - 7:54pm


About Molokai '09, I was wondering about the Tahitian women, as to whether we can expect similar performance as the men? The Aussie women, on the other hand, have perform just as well as the Aussie men in their race. So I'm just wondering what's holding the Tahitian women back?

Anyway, if conditions are moderate, I'm going with Tim Jacobs for this weekend's Molokai. If flat, I go with Lewis, but if big big water, I go with Cluse.

For the 2010 Molokai surfski race: why that's easy, I'm placing my bet on Fuzerider on a Epic V-12?


#7 Wed, 05/13/2009 - 9:30am


Clint Robinson to shine.


#8 Wed, 05/13/2009 - 11:23am


Hiro,

Any more conversations or accusations in Tahiti about top V-1 paddlers accusing other paddlers of "performance enhancement"? Or was that a one-time deal?

You might be right. Too much Aloha. We haven't had someone threaten to beat someone up on line in over 6 months.


#9 Thu, 05/14/2009 - 8:19am


Not heard anything like someone acusing someone else of taking drugs...

The Tahitian Government has signed agreements with international anti doping authorities. Now, the FTV (Fédération Tahitienne de Va'a) has the right to test paddlers... before that, testing was illegal, but the FTV found a way to test athletes anyway, not for races, but for the world champs : You had to volunteer for a test, those that didn't volunteer coulndn't be part of the selection.


#10 Thu, 05/14/2009 - 10:44am


I hear you Hiro , too much aloha all the time makes for pretty boring threads.

I give clinics on how to be irritating without really trying, would you like to register for one?


#11 Thu, 05/14/2009 - 11:30am


Hey Hiro....nice post. Yeah, Hawaii got our a$$es handed to us the past couple years, but the Molokai Hoe will always, always, be run no matter what, you can count on it. I agree with kcChee11...low, low, low, blow. The thing is, the tahitians beat everyone so soundly, we cannot even talk, no can say nothing. Hawaiian's say...pa'a ka waha...

For me, the Molokai Hoe is no longer the 'Feature Event'...Hawaiiki Nui is now the standard. Hawaii accepts the challenge and hopefully will be able to send down teams that can compete with, and maybe beat the tahitians.

I am an old SOB, way, way out of my prime. Calling out Hawaii's young bucks...time to meet the challenge.

BTW Hiro, its losing....not loosing. Small kine english lesson.

JawsOut.


#12 Thu, 05/14/2009 - 12:04pm


Next time I'll write in french.


#13 Thu, 05/14/2009 - 12:35pm


Please do write in French. That way you can trash talk us all you want and we not going understand a f&%k'n thing you said. It's good with me.

JawsOut.


#14 Thu, 05/14/2009 - 2:30pm


No trash talk... and if I ever do, I like people to understand what I'm saying...


#15 Thu, 05/14/2009 - 4:27pm


"If you no can say anything nice, no say nothing."


#16 Thu, 05/14/2009 - 10:31pm


Hawaiian, tahitian we are the same.... let's try to get one people, and all of those who write bad things to people or group of people, just let him talk..... he's free like all human... canoe has been used to travel from island to island, today is used as sports, and no longer with the respect of our ancestor... too bad, but money has something to do with it.... stop fighting and learn to respect....


#17 Tue, 10/13/2009 - 9:46am


I was hoping noone would bring this thread back to the top...
So now it's done... Here is this year's question : What about Molokai 2010 ?


#18 Tue, 10/13/2009 - 3:35pm


Some friends and I were talking about the question(s) koacanoe raised a few months ago re. Tahitian women's crews:

"About Molokai ‘09, I was wondering about the Tahitian women, as to whether we can expect similar performance as the men? ... So I’m just wondering what’s holding the Tahitian women back?"

Anyone have information on this? Why do the men have such a stronger showing (specific to Molokai) than the women?

(Also, how do you get the cool quotation format here?)


#19 Tue, 10/13/2009 - 4:32pm


Not so many female teams in Tahiti...
That's a pity.
My wife is training with 6 other women for Hawaiki nui lady's race... it takes 3 paddling clubs (TuaRua Va'a, Maroe Va'a, Fare Ara) to gather 7 women... They are not even sure they can race cause the FTV rules states that at least 4 of the 6 paddlers must belong to the same club.


#20 Tue, 10/13/2009 - 4:52pm


I've had the pleasure (??) of coaching lady crews that have raced against the Tahitian women at South Pacific Games, Mini SPG, etc.in sprints, V6 distance (20K) and same in V1. Since 1997 I cannot remember the Tahiti ladies losing a heat, let alone a final and have swept the Gold medals at these events every year. Now I will freely admit that no Hawaiian crews (or Australian either) compete in these events, but Fiji, New Caledonia, the Cook Islands etc are all there and those crews are pretty good.

I don't know the issues with Tahitian women and Molokai but if they ever do show I'm sure they would acquit themselves well with a little experience in the Channel....remember even their men did not dominate at first, everyone has to learn the power of that stretch of water. It takes a while.


#21 Tue, 10/13/2009 - 6:38pm


Old guys rule.
I beg to differ with you. They did dominate from the beginning. Their first year 1975, Maire Nui was second overall. Two other crews were in the top 6. In 1976 they won overall (Te Oropaa) and had 5 crews in the top ten. Every year that a Tahitian crew came to Molokai they had at least 1 crew in the top 3 overall. The women could do very well if they had the same support that the men do.


#22 Tue, 10/13/2009 - 6:51pm


Thanks Tom for the note and correction, I'd think it is a question of semantics.'Dominate' as opposed to finish well? (I was thinking of the last 3 or so years where Shell won, dropped the course record and Tahiti put all up top or almost as domination.) Also in the reported quotes that they thought it was 'rough' this year whereas my Hawaiian friends who raced thought it was just sloppy...may not have been accurately reported tho.
My only point was that where we race in the South Pacific the Tahitian women are very strong and do dominate here almost at will. But Fiji, New Caledonia and especially the Cook Islands are watching. learning, bringing in paddles and coaches from Tahiti and are committed to closing the gap...all good for the sport! And our smaller Islands are working hard to catch Fiji, etc. Plenty fun.


#23 Tue, 10/13/2009 - 7:18pm


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