paddle for surf......

bonjour ........everybody...
next june ,I have a new va'a for surfing....Hawaiien v3 on ddb strat...
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what's kind a paddle for the "peperuu"?.....what's size for surfing the french waves?....... merci de vos reponses .......thanks for your answers..
a hui hou ....a bientot...

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Submitted by stef on Sat, 02/14/2004 - 5:24am

Hey Stef, I saw that thread you linked to. Those photos of the 3 man taking off are crazy!
I have done a bit of canoe surfing around Kaua'i. I've used my regular sized steering blade (about 9.5x18.5 inch blade) for some small waves and it worked just fine, except sometimes it would be hard to hold. It also was a bit scary since I could have broken it pretty easily. Last June we did a surf contest and I used a bigger blade that was maybe 11x22 inches... I'm kind of guessing on this one though, I don't have one handy to measure. I might suggest taking a look at some of the blades sailing canoes use. The kind of steering blades Nick Beck uses with his [url=]Holopuni[/url] three-man sailing canoes might be good. Those are pretty hefty and reinforced and I imagine would be perfect for surfing. Hope this helps, and maybe some others can share their experience.


#1 Sun, 02/15/2004 - 1:24pm

I just dug up some old pictures from that contest. They're pretty horrible pictures so I never posted them before. Hopefully they will host this event again this year, was great fun.

#2 Sun, 02/15/2004 - 4:14pm

Hi Keizo,
I'm paddling with Stef in France. I've gone to Kauai to surf in november 2002. I was in Hanalei. Where do you paddle there ? Is there some good waves for canoe surfing ? Where are you? South of the Island, North? A great paddling seems to be the napali coast. Do you think it is possible in late october or is there too much surf ?

#3 Sun, 02/15/2004 - 8:49pm

thanks for this information .......11x22 is an enormous paddle .....I think more the size is hight ,more the surf is careful off franck ,he is a special technical sportman :D :D :D :lol: :lol: :lol: .....I enjoy to see our island ....may be next year......Most of paddler of my club(baie des phoques) goes in hawaii next august ,in hillo for the sprint race.....Two french :shock: girls specialist of sprint..goes with the french team.........doyou have a technique for va'a surfing ? or the va'asurf is just a question off feeling ?..
a hui hou

#4 Sun, 02/15/2004 - 9:57pm

[quote="keizo"]I just dug up some old pictures from that contest. They're pretty horrible pictures so I never posted them before. Hopefully they will host this event again this year, was great fun.[/quote]
thanks for the 2 photos ......but one more question .....Why the rigger is not on the same side ,but i'ts the same waves.....?
is it for the left wave ,you put the rigger on left ..and for the right wave ,you put the rigger on the rigth side ? may be ...I think :D

#5 Sun, 02/15/2004 - 10:40pm

[b]franckd[/b], The canoe club I paddle for is right in Niumalu (lihue area). Actually right now I'm in New York for college. :wink: Those photos are from Poipu. Kalapaki can be pretty fun for surfing canoes and I'm sure Hanalei would be great on the right day, although I haven't done it yet. They have a sixman race around the Napali Coast in august I think. There's photos in the gallery. A lot of people kayak the coast, mostly in the summer if I'm not mistaken. I don't really know if the surf is too big October.

[b]stef[/b], Yes, that blade I was using was absolutely horrible to paddle with. :P Big and heavy. Again, I'm estimating a little on the dimensions. As for the one team with the ama on the right side, well they had some trouble with it. It was definitely better the regular way that day. I've never surfed anything big enough where we needed to switch the ama to the other side, but your logic makes sense to me.

I should be around at the world sprints, see you then!

#6 Mon, 02/16/2004 - 7:37am

merci for your answers.....maybe another guys have a something about wa'asurfing technique......I would like to know this surf technique.....I think ,in france , just a few personn knows wa'a surfing ,so i would like to diffus this form off surfing......... :wink:
a hui hou

#7 Mon, 02/16/2004 - 9:20am

Thanks very much keizo, Kauai and Hawaiian Islands are marvellous for va'a. And so are polynesian islands. 8)

#8 Mon, 02/16/2004 - 12:51pm

Frankd and Stef. Here's the "rule of thumb" for the side to put the ama (outrigger) on. If the surf break you are at is left (goofy foot) break, put the ama on the left side. If it's a right (regular foot) put the ama on the right. If you've ever seen the canoe surfing pictures at Makaha, they all put the ama on the right side. The reason is when the canoe takes the drop, when it hits the bottom of the wave, the canoe will always pull to the ama side. Being that Makaha is a right break, you want the canoe to slide to the right, away from the breaking white water. Hope this makes sense.

#9 Wed, 02/18/2004 - 6:55pm

merci ...ocean98383 :wink: ... i have many photo and video off canoe surfing .......for my question ,it will be just to have the perfect technique ...... and you give me that's what i thinking........(sorry for my english,my french is better :lol: :lol: :lol: ) thanks a lot.....
et une petit bonjour de Paris ..........

#10 Wed, 02/18/2004 - 8:01pm

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