paddling in the olympics...

I think it's up to both the IOC and the ICF ( http://www.canoeicf.com ). But I read somewhere that no sport can be added without one being removed first. Not sure if that pertains to only new sports or to new 'subsets' of existing sports (such as outrigger/surfski/open water paddling falling under the Canoe/Kayak sport).

Right now, they're having enough trouble trying to get women's flatwater canoeing added. I think it would be great if they added either marathon K1 or an open water paddling discipline. In a way similar to down hill skiing in the winter Olympics, part of the beauty is how the course would be different every Olympics (rather than basketball, vball, soccer, track and every other sport that doesn't have much influence from the local environment).

I guess the place to start would be to get it to be an exhibition sport. I'm sure dragonboating will be at Beijing2008.

#1 Fri, 11/05/2004 - 1:11pm

this is from the www.olympic.org website.
"In order to promote the Olympic Movement, the International Olympic Committee (IOC) may recognise as International Sports Federations (IFs) international non-governmental organisations administering one or several sports at world level and encompassing organisations administering such sports at national level.
In order to be recognised, these organisations must apply the Olympic Movement Anti-Doping Code and conduct effective out-of-competition tests in accordance with the established rules. The recognition of IFs newly recognised by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) shall be provisional for a period of two years or any other period fixed by the IOC Executive Board. At the end of such period, the recognition shall automatically lapse in the absence of definitive confirmation given in writing by the IOC.
As far as the role of the IFs within the Olympic Movement is concerned, their statutes, practice and activities must be in conformity with the Olympic Charter. Subject to the foregoing, each IF maintains its independence and autonomy in the administration of its sport."
And I think that once you are recognized then you can be considered to be in the olympics. I hope that this helps some luke.

#2 Fri, 11/05/2004 - 5:36pm

found this too...start on p.56: http://multimedia.olympic.org/pdf/en_report_122.pdf

#3 Fri, 11/05/2004 - 5:44pm

[quote="nevslin"]this is from the www.olympic.org website.
"In order to be recognised, these organisations must apply the Olympic Movement Anti-Doping Code and conduct effective out-of-competition tests in accordance with the established rules. The recognition of IFs newly recognised by the International Olympic Committee (IOC) shall be provisional for a period of two years or any other period fixed by the IOC Executive Board. At the end of such period, the recognition shall automatically lapse in the absence of definitive confirmation given in writing by the IOC.
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interesting. I wonder how that would affect the sport. Considering there are no rules in place at all. How many guys to you think use performance enhancers? How many would test positive for recreational drugs? I'm pretty sure both are illegal according to the IOC.

Just a thought...Would the level of competition stay the same? I'm so out of the loop, does doping happen here in Hawaii? It may not happen too much, but as more races offer prize purses and sponsors offer more to atheletes the possibility arises.

#4 Sun, 11/14/2004 - 6:29pm

[quote="jc9_0"]
How many guys to you think use performance enhancers? [/quote]
I can't imagine too many people use steroids and the like. at least in the oc1 scene. I wouldn't be surprised if there are some misguided highschool age kids messing with that stuff though.
[quote="jc9_0"]
How many would test positive for recreational drugs? [/quote]
HA, I'm sure there would be a handful.. lets not mention names. :shock:
[quote="jc9_0"]
I'm so out of the loop, does doping happen here in Hawaii? [/quote]
Gosh, blood doping, if people start doing that, I think they're taking it all a little bit tooo seriously. Apparently your blood can turn gelatinous from it... Needles, putting your blood in a fridge, and then injecting it back in a month later seems a little extreme for any sane person. :?

#5 Sun, 11/14/2004 - 8:04pm

Wow, now you know how clueless I really am. I was using doping asa general term for any type of steroid or drug...didn't know that it meant chilling your blood for later use. Interesting thought though. Axactly what temp would I need to keep it at? :twisted: Nah just kidding...

#6 Sat, 11/20/2004 - 8:59am

ha, the only reason I knew about is it was cause I happened to read about it like 10 min before (sports psyc... the things you learn in college :))... apparently though, a bunch of the olympic cyclists did it in the 80's before the IOC banned it. I guess it's supposed to boost the amount of oxygen that can be carried to your muscles, but I don't think there's any real hard evidence that it works.

#7 Sun, 11/21/2004 - 6:10am

odd enough, i was just reading through the news, and it turns out the cycling gold medalist at athens, tyler hamilton, has been under fire for possible blood doping. maybe this is getting off topic, but here's a few links.

video on cnn.com see if this link works: http://premium.cnn.com/pr/video/sports/2004/11/22/obrien.tyler.hamilton.doping.affl.jsp?(none)

here's a statement from him: http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/041123/dctu030_1.html

and a usa today article: http://www.usatoday.com/sports/olympics/athens/2004-11-23-hamilton_x.htm

#8 Tue, 11/23/2004 - 4:07pm

But, really, who [b]doesn't[/b] keep other people's blood in their fridge?

#9 Tue, 11/23/2004 - 5:20pm

cyclists do use it for competition use. When blood is taken out your body then makes more to replace that amount of blood. Then when replace that blood taken your muscles then recieve 10% more oxygen and your legs are able to peddle for alot longer, fatigue dosen't set in as quick. It does work but can cause illness and even death.

#10 Mon, 11/29/2004 - 5:13pm