Livestrong training w/ EDT for Olamau?

Rumor on the streets in Tahiti is that EDT is Hawaii right now training with Livestrong...because Livestrong paid their way to come train.

Also that EDT (2012 Hawaiki Nui Champs), Shell and several other crews from Tahiti will be at Olamaui 2013. So it looks like everyone that was worried about Livestrong having an unfair advantage due to the course being all on Hawaii Island have a few bigger things to worry about... several top crews from Tahiti.

Submitted by mauitim on Mon, 11/26/2012 - 8:44pm

yes bradda,livestong got $,wanna hookup with tahitian dat,can go Tahiti and do hawaiki nui, easier for them with da local team help,and also maybe pick up paddling tips? and then host dat team in hawai'i.Anyway,good for hawai'i-tahiti comraderie,no?

#1 Tue, 11/27/2012 - 10:10am

Hoot Hoot!

Cream Pies all around!

#2 Tue, 11/27/2012 - 12:44pm

How bout someone on (Coach) Oahu put together get 18 of the best paddlers (that want to work together to blend) and out of that pick out a top 12 for Olomau. This would be a nice test to see how well we can do. Age wouldn't matter, only performance matter. Does anyone have any suggestion of coaches that have really made the best from the talent at hand.

Here's a couple of suggetions.

Raven- seems to always have teams that perform well. He usually seems to have talent that follows him.
Sean M from Beachboy - has very little talent and experience (comparatively speaking)within his paddlers and they perform well consistantly.
John P from Bradley- Has lot always performed well.
Ian Forrester free agent- I saw him coaching a team and I think that year they had two crews finish in top 10 molo.

We have to start from some type of plan.

#3 Tue, 11/27/2012 - 1:15pm

it wont matter who coaches. until Hawaii starts training like tahiti's professional teams, Hawaii will never beat the professional teams. there is no secret stroke or blend. they train at least twice as much as the best hawaii teams. until hawaii comes to this realization, this talk will be, and still is, nothing but cherping.

#4 Tue, 11/27/2012 - 4:49pm

Kind of funny when you think of years past for the Olympics. We can't beat the Russians,the Chinese, etc., as they start training when they are 2 and train 20 hrs a day. It's a wonder that the US could win anything based off that logic. Always seemed to be a cop out attitude.
Could you imagine if Greg Barton took that approach? US cannot win a gold medal in Kayaking, it's never been done. Just saying

#5 Tue, 11/27/2012 - 6:17pm

Numerouno- So are you suggesting not having a plan unless we have youth paddling twice a day. What if we decided to have a plan and then things started working then what if we say "hey we on to something here, maybe if we try a little harder we can do better". Seems like a logical evolution doesn't it? You're just assuming we don't have people willing to train that hard. Maybe they would if they saw a plan!!!!???? The strategy your suggestion seems to be 1. get people training hard in hopes a plan will come along 2. If the do train hard then now let's scramble to put together a plan.

Most people don't work hard blindly with no goal or plan.

Which way do you think will get people training as much as needed? 1 Tell people to just train hard. Or 2 Have a plan and have people buy in (train) to the plan.
Your post suggest option 1 is what you'd choose.!!

#6 Tue, 11/27/2012 - 9:05pm

my thoughts have always been if you want to be the best, you must train with the best. If livestrong is training with OPT crews, great for them! these guys have been training hard for years and this years molokai proved it! glad some local team has the financial backing to get some knowledge out of some of the best teams in the business. In time like all things, these methods will have a trickle down effect to the smaller club teams that do not have the funding or resources for professional assistance. just my .02

#7 Tue, 11/27/2012 - 11:31pm

toko and healthy, hold on a sec, and dont get your collective panties in a bunch.

it is good to have a plan, and of course a coach will help and push a team not only to the next level, but also get a team kick-started.

this is the easy part, but it has no weight or substance without training like the tahitians. whether the paddlers are willing to train hard is beside the point. you can also have someone coach your brains out, but it wont change the fact that you have to support yourself and family financially. the question is whether the paddlers can afford to train like the tahitians. the tahitians are professional paddlers. There are only three or four paddlers in all hawaii who actually train like (or are) Olympians, and could be considered "professional".

dont get me wrong, i am a hawaii paddler and proud of it. there needs to be a collective reality check on the state of paddling in Hawaii. if we are going to talk about beating the tahitians, the hardest part is being able to establish a financial system or sponsor which will enable paddlers to afford the Tahitian training regime. the rest is gravy.

#8 Wed, 11/28/2012 - 1:14pm

Why does every post relating to Tahiti always ends up about being like them or beating them???? Pretty tired of it..... Next subject!!!

To quote a wise bird " cream pies all around"

#9 Wed, 11/28/2012 - 7:35pm

second that motion kkk808.( I am from Tahiti)

#10 Wed, 11/28/2012 - 8:20pm

KKK808, because they personify excellence in paddling and they are the best.

in contrast, lets talk about being mediocre!

#12 Thu, 11/29/2012 - 8:12am

Should we talk about how to be even worse than them, their weather or their politics? Let's talk about their tatoos.
I like their music and how the gather around in circles and play their music after Molokai Hoe. Ever wonder what they do with all that food after the Hoe race? I wonder what they'd do if after I traded for one of their jerseys if I wore it and just grabbed a plate at their buffet they have. Maybe they'll give me a cream pie for desert. Who doesn't like cream pies, I like dark ones cause I think they taste more like chocolate, you think they bring their cream pies from Tahiti or if they buy them here. I bet they have boxes and boxes of cream pies in their hotel room. I wonder if they'd want me to take off my Tahiti jersey while I enjoying some fresh cream pie. Does anyone know how to ask for a cream pie from their hotel room? In French of course, sounds so much better asking for a cream pie in French than in English. Don't we all agree!!

One thing I like is that they seem to hang out with other crews after the Hoe. That seems to never happen amongst the Hawaii crews after a race. Maybe they give other clubs cream pies for visiting their circle. I wonder if I danced for them if they'd give me a cream pie, I knew this one girl in high school that was the BEST DANCER and she would get sooooo many cream pies. I heard she would eat them up all night, and she never got fat.

If Lanikai oursome other top clubs would offer me a cream pie I'd go visit for a little bit. I would first check the packaging to make sure that the cream pie hasn't been tampered with and poisened. If the cream pie checked out to be ok I'd see if I could bring some back to my fellow paddlers. Or maybe invite them over to have them share in some of the cream pie I just got.

#13 Thu, 11/29/2012 - 10:44am

Am I the only one with Tahitian Cream Pie stories?
Ok here's another one.
I like that they finish about an hour ahead of me in the Hoe. That way they have time to make some cream pies for our crew right when we hit the beach. It's so much better than finishing the race and not having a cream pie readily available. We all know that feeling of finishing a race and just starving so much that we reach behind to the guy behind us to see if he has a cream pie or reaching around the guy in front of you to see if he'll give you a cream pie. Most of the times they just want to have their own cream pie. Even if the guys in your boat will give you one they are still a little funny smelling from crossing the channel. They are also crumbly and get all over your face. I don't want any cream pie on my face or falling in the water, that's such a waste of cream pie. Sometimes no matter how much you scrub your face the cream pie stays on your face. I can't tell you how many times I've showed up to work the following day from a race and my people ask me if that's left over toothpaste all over my phace.

#14 Thu, 11/29/2012 - 4:24pm ?

#15 Fri, 11/30/2012 - 12:17pm

Hoot Hoot!

Hiro - you got me!

You Caught Me Red Handed Jimmy!

#16 Sat, 12/01/2012 - 6:20pm

Hahahahahah!!! Classic!!

#17 Sat, 12/01/2012 - 7:48pm

Thank goodness for Sunny Side. Still the best!

#18 Sat, 12/01/2012 - 8:01pm

pueo... bad bird ! bad !

#19 Sat, 12/01/2012 - 8:44pm

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