Hey there everybody,just looking for a bit of info on Hypr kanus,me looking at getting a Hoku'lea does anyone have one of these kanus any info on this or any of these kanus would be great thanks
Submitted by ezy01 on Sat, 12/13/2008 - 10:51pm
Hey there everybody,just looking for a bit of info on Hypr kanus,me looking at getting a Hoku'lea does anyone have one of these kanus any info on this or any of these kanus would be great thanks
Submitted by ezy01 on Sat, 12/13/2008 - 10:51pm
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if it's going to be your first canoe, and you are only planning to ride it on like a river, yo should go for it.
#1 Sat, 12/13/2008 - 10:59pm
Oh this will be good...
ezy01, there is more information on hypr on this website than the manufacturer would like I think. see if the searchbar works now and enjoy your readings.
#2 Sun, 12/14/2008 - 10:16am
I'm amazed at everyone's restraint so far. What? Are people actually paddling and not just hanging out here.
#3 Sun, 12/14/2008 - 11:49am
I am new to the sport too and read the following while evaluating the company and their products. I ended up with a Fusion made by OC Connection and could not be more satisfied. Then again I am new to the sport and might not know enough to be unhappy. Good luck.
http://www.ocpaddler.com/node/2592
http://www.ocpaddler.com/node/4237
http://www.ocpaddler.com/node/2627
#4 Sun, 12/14/2008 - 1:48pm
Coulda had a Pueo!
#5 Sun, 12/14/2008 - 6:00pm
Hurricane
#6 Sun, 12/14/2008 - 6:03pm
thanks hank1 for those posts some interesting reading there i might have reopened a can of worms i wish i knew about this before i asked the question.thanks all and happy paddling.
#7 Sun, 12/14/2008 - 10:28pm
hypr = :-(
#8 Mon, 12/15/2008 - 9:02pm
Returned mine as the paint was coming off in 1st week of use. The dealer dealt with it professionally and returned a full refund.
Happy with my Zephyr...
Misery is Optional.....
#9 Tue, 12/16/2008 - 10:59am
What's with all this HYPR bashing It's not the kanu it's the paddler.I own a HYPR Vantage and I love it not only is it fast in the flats but in the swells it rocks,It's just like they always say it's not the equipment it's the paddler,so take a good look in the mirror and maybe before you write a negative comment about a kanu/equipment take a good look at yourself and experience.Or better yet make your own kanu.
#10 Tue, 12/16/2008 - 9:26pm
No one is really bashing the designs of Hypr, they are all built off of existing boat designs as far as I know. Most of the bashing is on the quality and the service. Maybe its gotten better since some of the earlier threads that bashed it but all I know is that in doing boat repairs I spent way to much time fixing Hypr Kanus and that the construction on many of them was very sketchy. A few weeks ago a guy in Southern California was out paddling his Hypr on a typical semi windy day and the thing snapped in half on him 5 miles from shore...
#11 Tue, 12/16/2008 - 9:52pm
Looking at the pic of that broken Hypr (good name for hyped product) it seemed that the break was right at the step in the deck where the foam seat is recessed. This feature is an obvious weak point, and perhaps the manufacturers tendency to copy other designs is the problem.......the original Makia had this same step in the deck.
#12 Wed, 12/17/2008 - 1:45pm
I would be careful of accusing Hypr of copying designs, It is my understanding that all designs were made under license from the original designers. I would also add that one broken boat does not make a "obvious weak point"
#13 Wed, 12/17/2008 - 5:00pm
i would be curious how that hypr was transported... could racks without enough spread between the bars, weaken the hull at high speeds.. yes, i know many people do it all the time with no failure, and yes, it still is a piece of shit. just curious if it could one contributing factor.
#14 Wed, 12/17/2008 - 5:14pm
Must have been mislead by a posting to another thread which read - ".....just as some of the other HYPR models are (hull only) copies of other well known designs.. -snip - "
It may have been helpfull to have made it known at that point, that HYPR was totally legit as far as similarity to other boats go.
The fact that the Makia had a step reducing the structural depth at about mid point must also be an illusion of weakness.
This illusion plus the fact that i was told by another canoe manufacturer that Makias were prone to breakage in the middle, is to blame for my apparently incorrect message earlier in this thread......... Apologies HYPR! your products have been grossly misrepresented
#15 Wed, 12/17/2008 - 7:40pm
I own a Hyper Holo Nui and have no complaints to say about it regarding structure. Living in high extreme temperatures (100 degrees plus) in the summer time and hauling it around 30 miles just to paddle in water, the Holo Nui has withstand the aerodynamic feel traveling on the freeways. :-) ....no cracks, no dings from flying pebbles of the desert from high speed drivers. knockknockknock As "macjohnny" mentioned, its not da kanu...its da paddler!
#16 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 12:11am
Hyprs suck. Let's not mince words. That guy in Oceanside and someone in Hawaii both had Hyprs fail on them far from shore. Has anyone else heard of any other boat failing in this manner? Luckily no one has died due to these pieces o' crap. If you're on a lake, close to shore, I'm sure they're OK, but I'm thinking when you pay 3k or so for a boat you might think it's a little more seaworthy. Anyone who sells them should really think about what they're doing, and at least tell the buyer not to paddle very far from shore in rough conditions.
#17 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 5:12am
sorry; we're not talking about boat performance here...
boat failure don't have shit to do with the paddler... it's ALL the boat.
#18 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 6:59am
I am paddling a second hand boat that had a major repair after the entire back iaku assembly broke apart in heavy conditions. I did not own the boat at that time.
This boat has the tendency to come apart at times. Maybe it is me and the way I rig it, but one of the amas tends to come off. I heard about this elsewhere.
Recently this happened again. One part of the iaku assembly broke. I held the rear iaku in place with one hand, trying to paddle back to shore with the other.
This got complicated by the fact that the iaku partially broke when a larger wave hit us.
We had to swim the boat in. Fortunately I was not alone, thank you for your help. We found a way to drag the boat along. Unfortunately some expensive equipment got lost. It was late and dark when we finally reached the shore.
OC 1 are built extremely lightweight. This is generally good enough because we don't paddle alone. Catastrophic failure is definitely possible - and it is certainly not brand related.
One significant crack and the entire structure becomes weak.
Some boats are built without a stringer - I doubt that they would float when filled with water. And they fill quickly, because the pressure inside the hull maybe low ( sun heats up boat first, water cools it down later = low pressure inside )
Other boats have a stringer. Once, after a collision with a Golden Masters OC 6 on a wave, my other boat filled up almost instantly, but it carried on for a mile back to shore.
If you paddle far from shore with this lightweight equipment, you need some sort of back up. Otherwise you may be at fault yourself, rather than the builder.
I have no idea about the built quality of Hypr, just saying, other brands can have problems too, some less than others.
#19 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 12:35pm
I was on my OC-1 with two friends on a Hyper Waveblade OC-2. We had paddled out and were just getting ready to make the turn for a downwind run when, for no apparent reason, both receiving collars for the iakos on the OC-2 broke free from the hull. With both collars broken, there was no way to secure either iako. Fortunately, the wind was blowing somewhat on-shore that day and they were able to swim the canoe in. Had it been offshore, or a nasty shore break, it would have been even more ugly. As it was, it was a long swim, but everyone was fine, the canoe was repaired, and promptly sold (with full disclosure).
#20 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 9:22am
So are Hypr canoes still in production and still for sale new. Seems their liability insurance would be on the high side.
#21 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 9:51am
echkart, what do you mean the pressure in the hull is low?
#22 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 10:12am
Macjohnny, If you actually read my comment on the Hyper I owned, I never mentioned the canoe's "performance" only that the paint was bubbling and peeling off in the first week of use. Another paddler who ordered one here also had a paint issue and refused to take it.
I also read the other comments and noted that no one said that hyper canoes made them slow, or poor surfers only that there were technical / manufacturing issues with this brand.
I am just glad that I bought it through a dealer who treated me properly and refunded my purchase.
I agree that the worlds top paddlers could beat most of us on any canoe but that has nothing to do with boats failing.
#23 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 10:23am
Man, do we miss Hypr or what? Consensus is that they were horribly built, but they definitely provided hours of entertainment on OCP. Watching this topic get rehashed for the gazillionth time is priceless. So let's give credit where credit is due - All together now:
Thank you HYPR Canoe Company for the unlimited entertainment provided not only by the inferior and life-threatening nature of your product, but also for the unpredictable and unhinged behavior of your frontman. You've been almost as entertaining as porn. Amen.
#24 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 10:57am
All new Oc1's imported into Australia must have .05 cubic meters of positive buoyancy built into the hull or are not allowed to be raced, most are foam stringer. (includes ALL China built OC1's)
Providing you have a leg rope this provides a pretty good platform to hang onto if the hull breaks in two.
Cheers Rambo
#25 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 11:18am
Hey Rambo, does that effect any of the older canoes yet?
Can you still race a canoe without the bouyancy built in if you had raced it 2 years ago?
#26 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 12:04pm
good point rambo.
that is why i just filled my brand new pueo's ama with two part foam and have it colored with every possible neon color for visibility. it is now permanently buoyant and it hugs the water so well. an added benefit to this is no more of that hollow slapping noise that every ama i've ever owned makes.
#27 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 12:13pm
It only applies to canoes manufactured/imported after 1st July 2006. BTW my mistake, it was .03Cubic Metres not .05
This installed, works out to 10ft x 8" x 2" ( 3000mm x 200mm x 50mm) piece of foam which adds about 1 LB (.5kg) of weight.
Some of the natural hull buoyancy (ie, the core material in the layup ) can be used as part of this calculation.
Rambo
#28 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 12:21pm
So are Chinese built canoes imported into Australia built to different spec than the same model imported into the USA?
#29 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 12:30pm
wonder how this will affect things in Asia?
"Leading water sports gear maker Cobra (Thailand) has shut down its operation in Chon Buri, leaving security officers to advise 2,000 workers this morning of the closure.
The shut down reportedly followed a request from the 2,000 workers last month for a bonus of Bt20,000 per head and awage hike of 6 per cent. The company replied it could pay only Bt5,000-bonus per worker and a wage hike of 4 per cent- a response which prompted the workers to plan strike action.
Chon Buri deputy governor Pisit Boonchaung said he had been told of the factory's closure and talked with the Labour Ministry to negotiate with workers and the company.
Danu Chotikapanich, chief executive officer of Cobra International, told The Nation the disagreement was the result of amisunderstanding. He declined to say more.
Following negotiations with Cobra, labour union president Nawin Simaphan said the workers proposed the firm pay the bonus of Bt20,000 per head, an across-the-board wage hike of 8 per cent, work incentive of Bt1,200 per month, living cost allowance of Bt1,200 per month, risk allowance of Bt20 per day, a parent funeral allowance at Bt6,000, with a day off every other Saturday, and medical treatment allowance of Bt3,000 per year. The firm's representatives said they would consult with the executives and give an answer on December 4, he said.
A worker, who asked not to be named, said she worked with the firm since its opening 28 years ago. She said the bonus was lowered eventually from Bt40,000 to Bt30,000, to Bt20,000 and finally to Bt5,000, and so the workers ran out of patience. What angered them most, she said, was that they heard the firm lent Bt95 million to its subsidiary to extend business and then told the workers it had no money to pay for their wage requests, she said. "
1 Baht = 0.03 USD = 0.04 AUD
#30 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 12:42pm
Jibofo, i think Ozzie imports are the only ones with the .03 (.04 for OC2) Positive buoyancy, but as I'm not in USA i can't confirm for this market, but i think it is unique to OZ and is the reason we pay more for a canoe.
Rambo
#31 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 12:48pm
HYPR canoe covers were nice, well made and sturdy. My canoe died along time ago, but the cover is still around.....
#32 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 1:35pm
I hate to say it this way ,it sounds like I'm talking out of my a$$. but my BUTT tells me whats fast. I'm novice when it comes to canoes that grab waves but I can tell you what is flat water fast. I loved the WaveBlade 2 by Hypr. I would jump at a chance to try one from Pineula Va'a. but ya fast canoe.
#33 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 8:23pm
Again no one was bashing the way the boat moved, just the way the boat was made.
#34 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 9:37pm
Eckhart:
That was an exciting run. Lets try it agan, and avoid the boat failure. Sorry your GPS got lost.
#35 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 10:23pm
pks - now that you paddle " the 'unfair' advantage " ???
I just missed you and the youth group yesterday by a few minutes - we didn't see you outside the reef either . Maybe tomorrow 5 pm.
#36 Thu, 12/18/2008 - 10:41pm
What's the "unfair advantage"?
#37 Fri, 12/19/2008 - 4:24am
pueo?
#38 Fri, 12/19/2008 - 6:17am
HAHAHA
Knock Knock!
Who's There?
Pueo!
Pueo Who?
HAHAHA
#39 Fri, 12/19/2008 - 9:36am
#40 Fri, 01/09/2009 - 5:31pm
Haha! Where's the part where it cracks in half and dude drowns?
#41 Fri, 01/09/2009 - 5:36pm
That one is in the sequel
#42 Fri, 01/09/2009 - 5:47pm